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bivil — 17 years ago(May 06, 2008 09:52 PM)
You say he has monetary success but I've asked a lot of people who he is and no one knows.
I asked a lot of people about Warren Buffett, but they all thought he sang that "Cheeseburger in Paradise" song, therefore he must not be a world-famous billionaire. -
evilgeekgirl — 17 years ago(May 10, 2008 02:01 PM)
So by your statement, if someone is not known, they could not possibly be rich? What does being rich have to do with this?
Also Ender's Game is a wonderful book and I highly suggest reading it. It's one of those, "holy crap I just spent all day in bed reading" type of books because it really does suck you in. -
febarbieheadsfree — 17 years ago(May 12, 2008 10:31 PM)
I'm pretty sure my statement didn't have anything to do with being rich. You or someone else brought that in randomly. I meant that his comment on J.K. seemed like jealousy during some parts (the beginning mostly) with his, "Well MY book was like that!" And really, he's not as known as her.
And after hearing about all of this I decided to check out Ender's GameNot very interesting. I tried getting into it but I couldn't. It's like LotR with me; wasn't very catching (IMO) -
bivil — 17 years ago(June 26, 2008 04:13 PM)
I'm pretty sure my statement didn't have anything to do with being rich. You or someone else brought that in randomly.
Here was your statement:
You say he has monetary success but I've asked a lot of people who he is and no one knows.
Your ignorance has nothing to do with his wealth and notoriety. And, no, success wasn't brought in randomly. Irulan2 (the genius behind the "If he's not guilty how come people say he is?" argument) claimed Card was speaking from jealousy, so I naturally disputed two prevalent types of jealousy: artistic and monetary. If I had to choose between Card's career and Rowling's, I definitely wouldn't choose hers (or Michael Crichton's or Stephen King's or Dan Brown's). Success means different things to different people.
I meant that his comment on J.K. seemed like jealousy during some parts (the beginning mostly) with his, "Well MY book was like that!" And really, he's not as known as her.
I don't agree with everything he said, but if you think his points are flawed, address them. Don't try to dismiss an argument by saying, "Oh, he's just jealous." It's the sort of ad hominem nonsense a doting mother says to her child who gets teased all the time. You know what, Mom? Maybe those other kids aren't jealous. Maybe they honestly don't like your precious darling, possibly because she writes simplistic, highly derivative stories and is quick to call lawyers over issues she could resolve on her own. -
Skip_4591 — 15 years ago(November 27, 2010 09:16 AM)
" And really, he's not as known as her. "
whether or not this is true (which it is), and whether or not his opinions are truly out of jealousy, his points are still valid and he has evidence to support it.
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cosmic_quest — 17 years ago(June 26, 2008 06:06 PM)
You say he has monetary success but I've asked a lot of people who he is and no one knows.
Illiterate idiots and young children might not know who he is but he is a very successful author. He hasn't much to be jealous about considering his 'Ender' is going strong after many years.
And I do agree with him on the subject of the Lexicon. I also defy anyone to read 'Ender's Game' and not think the DA in OotP is heavily influenced by Ender's battle games with his friends. I'm not saying JKR out-and-out plaguerised that book but she was influenced by it.
"I always pretend to root for Gryffindors but, secretly, I love my Slytherin boys."~ Karen, W&G -
Jebal91 — 17 years ago(April 30, 2008 09:08 AM)
Did you just compare this hacks success to that of J.K Rowlings?
Harry Potter on the other hand is a phenomenon never before seen in the literary world, which success will never be replicated. In terms of sales it is the highest selling series of books of all time, doubling Lord of the Rings even. Critically it is lauded as the 'Star Wars of our generation' and loved by countless millions. The movie adaptations are just as loved both critically and commercially.
Enders Game on the other hand is a long forgotten about series of books, that people are ashamed to have read due to the authors backwards views. The movie adaptation of his movie is one of the greatest box office bombs of all time, people burnt his books because of his beliefs and even before then the critics of his books weren't all that great. -
mjp36 — 17 years ago(September 07, 2008 01:24 PM)
Orson Scott Card has nothing to be jealous of. Calling him an idiot shows what a uneducated person you are.
The only thing that JK Rowling has done is contribute to the further dumbing down of literature.
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febarbieheadsfree — 17 years ago(May 04, 2008 09:37 PM)
I saw this on another forum and commented there. It's too long to post here but all I'll say is I disagree with him. There was one part in that 238long wall of crap about how J.K. should let Van Ark make a little money, then later he claims "Now she is suing somebody who has devoted years to promoting her work and making no money from his efforts"
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Literatur — 17 years ago(May 07, 2008 02:39 PM)
And Lexicon writers did not invent the stuff they write about and do get paid.
And people who write dictionaries did not invent the language they write about but still get money for their effort.
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Reganne22 — 15 years ago(April 11, 2010 09:11 AM)
I know this comment was made 2 years ago but I just had to address how absolutely ridiculous it is. lol
The guys who make advertisements for Coke get paid and Coke's not theirs.
Yeah, they get paid by the people who own COKE to advertise their product for them. Much like how WB pay people to make Harry Potter advertisements to promote the movies, or how Bloomsbury/Scholastic pay people to make posters and advertisements to promote the Harry Potter books. This situation is in no way comparable to a guy selling a book using Rowling's characters, world and occasionally her own words.