Biden seems hell bent on destroying the world before Trump takes over
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Uncreative — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 04:16 PM)
Ukraine isn't in NATO but that doesn't mean they aren't an ally. They voluntarily gave up their nukes in the 90s because of an agreement that Russia wouldn't invade and the US would help maintain the existing borders of necessary. Russia clearly didn't hold up their end of the deal. If we don't either then why should anyone else trust us? If other countries see the US as an unreliable ally they're a lot more likely to start looking towards China instead.
And yes I don't see why Harris wouldn't have been capable of negotiating with them if she got elected because a) she wouldn't cave for them at the first hint of flattery and b) she'd actually listen to the professionals before going into the situation. -
Lilith — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 05:48 PM)
The U.S. buggered this whole thing up to begin with. The borders of Ukraine were fluid but Crimea was always Russian. Russia held up their end of the bargain in wanting Ukraine to remain independent and neutral, much like Switzerland, but that didn't happen. Ukraine is not in NATO and they are not our allies. Also, like I've said, we have no beef with Russia. Well, we HAD no beef until Biden sent American soldiers over and American weaponry and then at the 11th hour gave the OK to point those missiles into Russia, which was the one thing Russia drew a line in the sand about.
There was the potential for a peace negotiation within the first week, but the Dem war hawks in our capitol wanted to keep funneling money (ie: laundering) and maintain a perpetual war. America stuck their nose where it didn't ever belong in the first place.
Harris can't even answer questions without speaking in non-sequiturs for 10 minutes, and even then, she cannot make decisions on her own. She is merely a puppet for the deep state, and anyone with a critical thinking brain can see that. She would perpetuate war for financial reasons. It behooves the Dems to keep war going.
There is no reason this cannot and should not be dealt with diplomatically, regardless of how that is done. I don't want any more deaths on any side, anywhere. This has been extended needlessly.
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Uncreative — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 07:58 PM)
It's hard to take any complaint about Biden's health or Harris' speaking abilities seriously when Trump is worse at both by any reasonable measure. The clown make up covers his age up a little bit. Without it he looks like a bloated corpse. The odds that that he'll either be dead or a vegetable by the end of his term are close to 100%.
And no Crimea isn't Russian. They gave it to Ukraine 60 years ago and the only real argument they have for Russia keeping it is a referendum that took place after they already occupied and isn't considered reliable by anyone for obvious reasons.
Also most of the US equipment that Ukraine has been getting is outdated and already planned for retirement. By official government accounting it has a price tag but no real value.
Plus Ukraine is a democracy. Russia isn't. There's a huge difference between that, and trying to impose it on places like Iraq or Afghanistan.
We haven't always set the best example for democracy over the years considering all the democracies we've overthrown during the 20th century using the red scare as a cover, but it's worth protecting a country that wants to remain one. We tried being friendly with dictators. All it got us is unstable neighbors and lots of refugees trying to immigrate gere. -
Lilith — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 08:16 PM)
I know that Ukraine is a democracy and Russia isn't. Your point? My point remains that Russia has advanced weaponry and we, Americans and those in the western world, have no beef with Russia. We buggered it all to hell when we got involved in the first place.
No. Russia uses that port and has always used that port for their Navy. There was an unspoken agreement that Ukraine would retain its independence and not be encroached upon provided that port was left alone and that no strategic missiles were pointed at their land. Russia has every right to defend itself and to keep what belongs to it.
If Ukraine had accepted the peace treaty one week into this fiasco, they would have more land and greater border stability, but no. They didn't want the peace talks and yes, America stepped in and gave them weaponry. Even our own weaponry is outdated. We're at least a decade behind where we should be.
What dictators have we tried being "friendly" with? Do not confuse a "friendship" with a "diplomatic relationship" that works for all parties involved. What I see with Trump is not "friendship" but that he will do, (as he has shown us that he can do already), is get our soldiers out of that war and help facilitate a peace agreement that saves lives all the way around. But no, the Bidens and the war hawks want to continue to funnel (ie: launder) our tax dollars into Ukraine for a perpetual war machine. It's insanity.
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Uncreative — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 08:55 PM)
Russia can't use their nukes. Even if by some chance they still work, the second Putin uses one he loses all his leverage and he's a dead man.
I don't know why you keep saying our military equipment is out of date. Thanks to the military industrial complex we've got the best weapons money can buy. Which is part of the problem. You could make a good argument that we should be scaling way back but that's beside the point. The F35 program may be behind schedule and over budget but it's far more advanced than anything else we know about. That's not even counting all the classified programs that won't be public knowledge for decades. Nobody else in the world can match our aircraft carriers or destroyers. We sell weapons to half the world because our stuff is the best.
When we lose it's because we suck at dealing with guerilla warfare and nation building and I'd agree that's not something we should be getting involved in. It's also not at all comparable to the Ukraine situation. If we're going to call ourselves the leader of the free world then we need to protect free countries that need support against aggressive neighbors.
And if you want a short non comprehensive list of dictators we installed and propped up:
We put one in charge of Korea after WWII
We overthrew Iran's democratically elected government and installed the Shah as a puppet.
We overthrew the democratically elected government of Guatemala to install a dictator who would let US businesses do whatever they wanted in the country. Which is why the term banana republic exists.
We put a right wing dictator in charge of Chile and propped him up for years because we didn't like the left wing government
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Lilith — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 09:06 PM)
You lost me the minute you backed the military industrial complex.
Wow. Just…wow.
You still did not tell me what dictators we became friends with.
America has screwed the pooch by being the police for the world for far too long. We are not responsible for all of the ills of the world. We aren't there to fix everyone else's problems, especially now when we have so many of our own, even more-so now, thanks to Biden.
Yes, our equipment is out of date. We are at least a decade behind. Today we fight the wards of yesterday while facing tomorrow. You need to consult with the people who have actually had boots on the ground. We're ahead of most, but not all.
We can go back and forth all day and neither of us are going to change our dial.
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Uncreative — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 09:09 PM)
Try reading again. I didn't say it's a good thing. Just that it exists and there's no denying it. We should be cutting back. And I can't honestly see that happening any time soon no matter who the president is so if we have it we owe it to other free countries to help them stay that way.
And again: the Shah of Iran was our guy, Pinochet was our guy, the South Korean dictator was ours, we installed one in Guatemala then propped up him and a series of successors. -
Soul_Venom — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 08:49 PM)
It is an empty threat. Putin ain't going to risk losing absolutely everything. He is getting his ass kicked as is and he knows it. He will not risk America an NATO going all in on his ass. He also knows there is a decent chance that one of his own may decide **** it and put a bullet in him if he takes such a foolish risk.
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Soul_Venom — 1 year ago(November 21, 2024 08:54 PM)
Speaking of blowjobs how long are you going to continue to pretend to fellate the democRATS microdick? That whole Trump-is-in-bed-with-russia nonsense has been thoroughly debunked.
Trump is still your President. Charlie Kirk still Wins!