Do you think Tom Welling is better than Henry Cavill?
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UltimaRex — 12 years ago(December 25, 2013 01:04 PM)
Well then you should know by now that MOS has Superman in it.
I dare you to say the same about Smallvile.
Oh, and show me the clip where Cavill acts as bad as the [redacted] clip above. I watched MOS plenty of times and missed that
Man has not only the right, but even the duty to become "Superman" - Nikolai Berdyaev 1902 -
thevintagecola — 12 years ago(December 26, 2013 12:18 AM)
What is 'redacted'? You sound mad. I don't have a hard on for any of the Superman actors so I don't get offended when someone says their acting sometimes sucks. I will watch something without bias and will either agree that their acting could have been a lot better or that they brought their game.
So if Tom Welling sucks in other scenes then he sucks. It's no hair off my back and I don't get angry at someone for pointing it out or expressing a different opinion
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Cavill's character didn't say anything in MOS that was clever or inspiring. He let Jonathan Kent and Zod make final decisions for him that he had ample opportunity to step up and do things his way instead of theirs. Not someone I'd follow into the sun like Jor El claims. So therefore he wasn't really interesting to me. If that makes some people angry I don't care since I can accept that people have different opinions and that tom welling churned out sh#t performances in the seasons I haven't gotten to yet without feeling the need to get defensive about it as if I'm his agent or lover like most fans do with Superman actors
As for superman being in MOS that's up in the air since people claim he wasn't superman yet going as far to say he isnt fully formed and his learning curb is happening while he's in the suit. He doesn't have his sh#t together for most of the film and doesn't establish a different persona until the end which matches up with Smallville . So which is it?
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UltimaRex — 12 years ago(January 03, 2014 12:15 PM)
I'll say it again: I'm. A. Superman. Fan.
You see the quote below? The comic book Superman started in 1938.
There is more to Superman than most people know. And if something comes along and throws it all over the side for "Dawson's Creek with superpowers" then yes, expect me to get "mad".
Man has not only the right, but even the duty to become "Superman" - Nikolai Berdyaev 1902 -
fireyrose — 12 years ago(January 04, 2014 07:30 PM)
5b4I will DARE say that about Smallville because SUPERMAN IS ALWAYS SUPERMAN NO MATTER WHAT POINT HE'S AT IN HIS LIFE, WITH OR WITHOUT A SUPERHERO MONIKER - IT'S STILL THE SAME beep CHARACTER. AND HENRY CAVILL WAS NOT PLAYING SUPERMAN SO HE WAS NOT IN THE MOVIE. Get that through your thick-skull. The reason you missed Cavill the crackheads atrocious acting is because you don't know what good acting looks like, clearly.
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fireyrose — 11 years ago(September 16, 2014 01:47 AM)
Ouch that really hurts, UltimateDumbFecks, but really you've already proven that you're the idiot repeatedly by contradicting yourself; and by not knowing the difference between Superman and Bizarro. So the juice is no longer worth the squeeze, bitch.
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WackyKacky — 12 years ago(December 27, 2013 10:34 PM)
No. I don't think Tom Welling was more suitable for Man of Steel.
During Smallville, he looked like he lost some of that muscle definition and gained weight. As he aged, I found it hard to see him as Superman in a movie (of course, since then he looks like he has trimmed up).
Like Vintagecola, I don't feel I am an agent or a lover, so I objective enough to not let feelings get the better of me. I think the movie was too different to have the Clark Kent of Smallville. I personally didn't think Welling acted like a plank of wood as one reviewer said, however I think as the longest running Superman show ever, he has put his brand on Clark Kent and would not have been able to be the kind of Superman Zack Snyder was looking for. Often you need fresh faces or the ghosts of Superman past creeps in, making it very hard for the director to craft the Superman he feels would be best for the movie.
I began watching Smallville in season 7, and enjoyed it. I enjoyed every Superman since the 1960's when I was a young child. I think each actor brough something different. If I had to say who my favorite Superman is, it's the one that lives on the comic book pages. (I even enjoy the comic Sup's! Loved "Doomsday" where Superman "dies".)
I thought Henry Cavill did a great job making his body look the way it did without padding. He had the absolute best Superman physique of any actor who has ever played Superman. I look forward to the other Superman's that I heard are on the way, and hope to see Cavill in them as long as he can pull it off.
Thanks Tom Welling for 10 seasons of Clark Kent. You kept the fan's coming (even after the teen boppers had grown up and stopped watching) and got an old woman like me to enjoy seeing yet another show about Clark Kent/ Superman! -
xanxei — 12 years ago(January 02, 2014 12:58 PM)
Christopher Reeve
Brandon Routh
There ends the very short list of good Supermen.
To be fair, the Tom Welling I just saw in Parkland might have, with good direction, made for a good film-Superman, but that's simply not a possibility anymore. In a different universe where someone else played Clark Kent on Smallville and Welling meanwhile grew into a decent actor elsewhere, someone might have cast him in a Superman movie, but in this universe, that ship has not only sailed, but sunk. -
Darkwalker173 — 12 years ago(January 13, 2014 01:34 AM)
Brandon Routh would have been remembered as a great Superman if the script had been any good.
He wasn16d0't given much to do and as I said, the script was so bad that I am surprised Superman Returns was made in the first place.
Although Smallville was a guilty pleasure of mine despite the steady decline in quality, Tom Welling, although good looking, was simply not a good actor, and on the job training is not recommended when you are carrying a show.
Henry Cavill did not play Superman.
I don't know who he was exactly, but Superman he was not.
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WackyKacky — 12 years ago(January 13, 2014 02:31 AM)
I honestly don't think Tom Welling was a bad actor. Many actors are trained, and more than you care to know learn "on the job", and end up taking acting lessons later. I thought his best was when he was allowed to be "bad". I also thought some of his 2nd year stuff was pretty good (loved the episode when he first shot fire out of his eyes). I think a big portion of what came across as stiff had more to do with poor scripts that spent way too much time on the Lana/ Clark dysfunctional relationship, which I was ready for it to end by Season 4. Clark was written as a self condemning person, constantly full of guilt. I would have liked to see them develop him with more passion and boldness. It started that way but once they had exhausted exposing new abilities, he did little more than running in slow motion. I think they could have developed his character more, in keeping with the growth of Lex Luthor, who they carried from rich brat growing into his own to evil through and through in 7 years. Not so for Clark. He got to wallow in self pity for almost 3 more years.
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MysteryRidah — 11 years ago(June 18, 2014 04:50 PM)
UltimaRex
Must be trolling
Tom welling is the best superman next to reeve. Period. Man of steel sucks, the whole damn movie was trash.
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xanxei — 12 years ago(March 24, 2014 03:16 AM)
Agreed on all points, except this:
Superman Returns
did have a
fundamentally
flawed script, but while it didn't work as a whole, it still had a lot going for it, and many segments were absolutely brilliant. It's really a shame of epic proportions that they didn't have a better foundation to build on, because there was a lot of talent in that movie and they got many things very, very right. Bryan Singer's vision was absolutely beautiful. It's just too bad they couldn't make the premise work.
I heard somewhere scheduling got messed up and they had to write the script in a month. If that's true, it explains a lot.
Man of Steel
, by contrast, was just a bizarre, embarrassing mess from beginning to end. It didn't get
anything
right.