I hope his parents sue Chrysler for everything they have.
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back2u50 — 9 years ago(July 16, 2016 08:07 AM)
Wasn't this technically driver error? I mean he put the vehicle in neutral and not park. From what I read he was a serious workaholic and was running out in the middle of the night.
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drxcreatures — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 07:45 PM)
Yes. He had it in neutral. That can cause any car to roll in even a flatter driveway.
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Revler — 9 years ago(July 29, 2016 01:08 AM)
So whose fault do you think it is? Cars should not roll away while in gear. As stated before, it was a flaw Jeep made and recalled. To me that makes it highly likely that he didn't do something"wrong".
Many cars today prevent you from doing certain things if the car isn't in park, such as turn the car off, take the keys out of the ignition, open the door, ect. I don't own a new Jeep but I had one years ago and I could not take the keys or turn off the buzzer until it was in park.
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MoreThanEternity — 9 years ago(August 01, 2016 12:17 PM)
http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/01/anton-yelchin-family-to-sue-wrongful-death/
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jcs-31203 — 9 years ago(August 01, 2016 12:34 PM)
I have a 2015 Jeep GC with the same (and as yet "uncorrected") gear shift control. I placed the word uncorrected in parentheses because I don't intend to get it modified. The gear shift is not intuitive at first, but at no time have I been unable to positively determine what gear I was in. Since Anton's death, I have been examining the vehicle and what I can see thus far is that when the vehicle is in park, it stays there. I have tried the same on a 52 degree hill and watched it for several hours, running, but in parkno release. Then I did something I hoped would cause a failure in the most catastrophic way possiblesometimes technology doesn't fail unless pressed to the breaking pointI found a relatively clear stretch of freeway and drove 15 minutes at 60mph, then quickly decelerated to 30mph and shifted into park. This had an immediate effect on my relative motion, and gave me a sore neck the next day, but damn if it didn't come to a rather abrupt halt.
I had the minor damage repaired, but declined the almost emphatic advice to stop driving it until all the corrections, which are largely more prominent indicators of the vehicle's current shift position, as I am capable of interpreting the already redundant indications of what gear I am in.
This death was a tragic one, no denying it. I liked him more than average, and compounded with his youth, it was just damn sad. That said, I would be willing to stake my salary for this year that it was just what I said, a tragic accident. 5b4 Mr. Yelchin, like we all do, was not completely focused on the task at hand, no pun intended, and most likely thought the shifting he did rendered the vehicle stable for a quick hop to the mailboxI am also certain that the vehicle was not in the gear he believed it to be, thus the result. Is it his fault? I think that ultimately it will be shown that multiple factors contributed to the misunderstanding of his vehicle's operation, including the less familiar kick-back gear shift, but at the end of the dayhe was responsible for operating as safely as he believed was worth it. I don't fault him as a good human being, I simply point out that oversights sometimes have no consequences when they easily could, and other times oversights result in the ultimate outcome of death.
Blame is not something I wish to assign as a multitude of other factors undoubtedly contributed, and they were not all Yelchin's contribution.
It just seems like placing culpability, responsibility, blame, and condemnation on a single party, such as Fiat-Chrysler, is too simplistic to explain it all. Moreover, the company being forced out of business (perhaps overly zealous wishful thinking on the OP's part), however unlikely from this single event, isn't quite equitable to the thousands of jobs they provide.
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MoreThanEternity — 9 years ago(August 01, 2016 12:49 PM)
From what I have seen, I don't think anyone is saying that his car slipped out of park. I think they are just saying that the shifter is just not intuitive and many people before him had gotten injuries because they mistakenly thought the car was in park. Here's an article from March that talks about the dangers of the new gearshift, a whole three months before his accident:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nhtsa-investigates-dangers-monostable-electronic-gearshift-fiat-chrysler-jeep-grand-cherokee/
It may have been user error, but, from what I understand, he was only one of many that made that mistake and that's why there are lawsuits happening. The fact that they changed from something so basic and intuitive to something that is so easy to mess up with possibly fatal consequences.
Disclaimer: I have only watched a video about how to operate this gearshift and have never tried one. This is only what I understand from the many articles I have read.