Rob Zombie has gone entirely in a wrong direction.
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Rob Zombie
scrapmetal7 — 9 years ago(November 05, 2016 04:01 PM)
In the middle of the movie 31, the people come upon a filthy circus tent. Inside is a woman who has been pinioned to a platform on the ground with barbed wire for some time, and has been raped repeatedly by two of the killers. She is in a terrible condition and has been tortured horribly (in the beginning of the movie we saw her husband get killed). They keep her draped under a deflated blow-up sex doll. One of the people try to free her while the other one yells at her because he thinks she is somehow in on the trap. The killers come in and one of them kills this woman with his chainsaw. This draws reactions of sadness, anger, hate, and disgust, but not fear. This is not horror. I don't even know what to call it.
A movie about a group of innocents trapped in a warehouse with killer clowns could be done a number of ways, but the only way that really works would be to be over the top, intense, and ridiculously fun. The scene I described above is certainly over the top, but in a very bad direction, and is definitely not in any way fun. None of this movie is fun to watch at all.
The kind of boost that Rob Zombie got to his credibility for the rape scene way back in Devil's Rejects was not a blank check. If he wanted to be seen as a serious filmmaker of serious films, as seems to have been the case, throwing in a rape scene was only going to work once. He was more than welcome to keep pursuing serious material, but it had to be different kinds of serious material. Instead, all of his films have had rape or forced oral sex content. His films had to develop into better and more serious films, and they haven't.
The usual complaints against RZ are his bad characters and bad dialogue. Those are valid complaints, but I was willing to overlook them, because he is an amazing talent and as a cinematographer, he is at the very top of the game. But the real problem that I think has finally solidified into a habit, is the rape filled nature of his movies, which I never signed on for, I think is NOT horror, and I am not interested in. -
wildj7 — 9 years ago(December 08, 2016 05:52 AM)
IMO he is an over-rated director who makes the same horror porn over and over, just repackaged in a new look and title each time but the content is always the sab68me;
plus he has Sheri Moon (who is now his wife) in everyone of his films.
Furthermore he ruined the Halloween franchise. I was hoping for him to bring something new to it while at the same time adhering to the formula that made the original Halloween films so successful but no, he butchered the franchise by turning it into horror porn.
Finally can we have a horror movie without the rape. The world is bad enough and there is no need to use rape as a plot point or visual device in movies.
I will not watch this and will not watch anything horror by him. -
ElectricWarlock — 9 years ago(December 14, 2016 03:22 PM)
Well, he's sort of damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. He tried to change up the formula with T5b4he Lords of Salem (which emphasized atmosphere, visuals, sound, and cinematography over blood, violence, language, nudity, etc.) Although I personally think of it as his best, he was criticized by fans of his previous work who wanted the blood, violence, language, nudity, etc. and found Lords of Salem boring. He was forced to go back to that because a lot of the response was negative when he tried to get away.
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VivienCastro — 9 years ago(December 19, 2016 04:32 AM)
There is no need for murder. There is no need for blood. There is no need for many things. Just because you can have a good horror movie done in one style doesn't mean the director has to do it. Rape is a part of horror thematic and this is Rob's style, it is what interests him, and I see nothing wrong with that. It's one thing if the movie just isn't good, but having an issue with the fact it shows rape is just stupid.