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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Mallika Sherawat
the_wrinkled_mind — 12 years ago(May 28, 2013 01:52 AM)
I have never cared for her, even when she shot to fame with her breakout film(for all the wrong reasons).But I was irked, like ever Indian out there, with her recent interview at Cannes.So bear with my rant.
1]You are not the first woman to kiss & wear a bikini on screen.The first kiss in Indian cinema happened way back in the early 30s and Sharmila Tagore was the first to wear a bikini(and looked miles gorgeous than you) in the sixties.
2]You are due to do a film on a midwife and yet you call her a nurse.Jesus woman get your facts right at leastabout your own work.
3]Don't call yourself a superstar.You were never even in the top 3 actresses in India, at any point of time.You starred in a couple of 'Mahesh Bhatt' produced movies, who succeeds in shamelessly plagiarising Hollywood movies and turning them into softcores.The marketing is also strictly based on that.They aren't even subtle about it.
4]Your claim to fame in foreign films is Myth(one of Jackie Chan's worst films)and Hiss(a poor adaptation of an age old Bollywood obsession with snakes-which itself has passed it's sell by date).
5]Being daring is not just about flashing skin and mouthing bad words.A dozen girls come out with movies like that every week herewearing far less clothes and speaking far worse words.Being daring and different is challenging a mindset.Trying to do a movie which questions society or its structure.And when those movies are not just aimed at being titillating and being softcores.Even the nudity or sex scenes in those movies have a value or purpose.
Shabana Azmi & Nandita Das did it with Fire, Rekha did with Aastha, Tabu did with Astitva, Smita Patil did it with most movies in her life & Azmi too.
You aren't even fit enough to tie their shoe laces.
6]This one is a wee bit personal and maybe mean, but I think I need to say it.Those actress mentioned above were/are beautiful without the help of a LA nip tuck5b4.Harshbut a fact.
Lastly, I have no issues with Sherawat if she continues to do what she does.Making lousy softcores, going to Cannes uninvited, pulling off stupid provocative stunts.but refrain from telling lies.I know you are in an industry which requires creating a controversy.But stick with your stunts in the past. -
Akirevada — 12 years ago(June 05, 2013 10:04 PM)
I agree that the pathetic accent and her "facts" about her career were embarrassing, but people are just angry because she said India is regressive women, which isn't a lie.
As for the rest of the post:
a) She's only had a boob job so it's not really going to affect her looks and Mallika definitely isn't ugly. She has a horsey face, but can look good. She also has a good body except those fake boobs and her flat butt.
b) I wouldn't exactly call her film "soft core (porn)" except maybe Murder and that film was only provocative by Indian standards.
c) She might not be a Nandita Das or Tabu, but she's not a bad actress. People keep forgetting that.
d) How can you get into Cannes uninvited? Tina Turner's daughter tried that this year and she was kicked out.
d) The biggest "stunts" Mallika's pulled have been showing skin at premieres, wearing a burqa, having kissing/sex scenes in films, and make some bold statements. You're making it seem as if she's Kim Kardashian who's always desperate for attention and money. -
the_wrinkled_mind — 12 years ago(June 07, 2013 01:52 AM)
The whole world is regressive towards women, in varying degrees.People look at some of things that happened in India(rapes etc) but its a world phenomenon and the outlook even there is bleak.There were cases in UK against footie stars who gangraped but people tried to blame the victim or the case in USA, where young boys raped a passed out girl and people questioned her and were more upset for the boy's future.What I am implying is that women get a raw deal everywherewhich is sad.
Sherawat made it sound as if India is no different than some of the middle eastern countries.Which is just plain wrong.
Now for your points.
1]She has had more than a boobjob and is not secretive about it.She is far from a quintessential Indian beauty or even a sexy Indian siren.She is an educated version of Rakhi Sawant.
2]In most of her films, where she had lead roles served only one purpose.Opportunities for her to show her flesh.Its pretty much what softcores do, right?The ones in which she had minor roles, involved her being in item songs.You very well know what that is.
3]I never questioned her acting skills.They are not great(or even good) but decent.I questioned her claims that she was a superstar.She never wasn't even amongst the top 3 actresses here.
4]Its a known fact in media circles (though not blurted out loud), that a known entertainment critic extends her Cannes's invites.Technically though he allows her to tag along.She is smart enough to know, as to how to maximise that presence.You knowphoto-bombing other other celebs when cameras are around.
5]And finally ask anyone in India and they will tell you that her stunts have the sole purpose of grabbing ab68ttention and she is no different from Kim K.
I hate to get personal, but a woman who abandons her husband and more so her toddler to become a star, is desperate for attention and money.And in her earlier days she wouldn't even acknowledge their existence.The only reason this doesn't get talked as much, is because her ex-hubby prefers anonymity. -
Akirevada — 12 years ago(June 10, 2013 11:17 PM)
Of course rape occurs all over the world, but what you mentioned in the UK is an isolated incident. Rape and sexual harassment towards women in India is
normal
. There's a reason why women in India make sure they've changed to loose clothing to covers their legs when they go out and make sure they don't go out alone, especially after dark. Did you read about the American woman who decided to hike alone back to the place she was staying in India? Big mistake. Everyone knows a woman cannot walk alone and not get harassed. And that wasn't the only recent incb68ident involving foreign women in India (let's not even go into local women who are less likely to report harassment). As for making it sound no different than some Middle Eastern, is it really different? Parts of India are probably even more regressive for women than it most parts of the Middle East.
a) What else has she had other than a boob job? She looks exactly the same as she did when she she was a flight attendant except bustier.
b) You're exaggerating or at least our standards are different. To me, the amount of flesh shown in Murder (wearing a bikini, showing a bare back in a shower, legs in a skirt) is tame. And of course, many of her films are like that. She made her debut as a sex symbol and is usually typecast as one. That said, she didn't show any skin in Pyaar Ke Side Affects, Welcome or Ugly Aur Pagli.
c) By Hindi movie standards, she's above average.
d) Either way, she does not invite herself. She has an invitation.
e) Of course she wants attention, but you make it seem as if what she does is so extreme. Making bold statements and showing skin is not that big of a deal. Again, this goes back to Point B. Our standards are different And the Kim K comparison is too much; the latter is obsessed with money and fame.
I didn't even know she had a child. I'm guessing she didn't mention it before because it wouldn't fit with the sex symbol image she was going for earlier in her career. Wouldn't work in India. That's why even unmarried Hindi actresses avoid being open about having a boyfriend. -
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led_mind — 12 years ago(June 13, 2013 02:08 AM)Go to Google and search for stats about rape.UK and USA actually have more rapes than India.Shocking I know.And before you counter saying that maybe rapes get reported more there than in India, then I can tell you that's not the case.Not reporting rapes is a phenomenon that also happens in UK and USA(on a large scale).
Again what I am implying is that rape is a world phenomenon.They shouldn't happen anywhere, but saying that situation in India is worse is just lieing.
What the hell do you even know about India, when you claim that women can't go out and have to cover themselves.We are not middle east with the veil culture.You obviously haven't been here.I can assure you that there are plenty of women who roam around in skirts, shorts as much as sarees and salwars.
Lastly about the American tourist case.I am not condoning the rape, but she took a lift at midnight from drunk truckers, in an isolated area.That doesn't give them any right to rape her but stillwhat would you think would have happened to a girl who took lift from drunk truckers in Arizona at late night or in Hull?
As for your answers to the points.They don't make sense.
She is an attention seeking idiot, who has behaved like that for ages.You aren't from here so you aren't aware of that.And she has had lipo, collagen, botox done apart from boob-jobs.She has accepted that.
She had a bachelorette show, which got cancelled.But she tried that when she didn't get films.
She is worse than Kim K.At least Kim K is loyal to her family.This woman actually abandoned & disowned her toddler(a young baby and it was her own) because she wanted fame and money.
Which brings me to the Cannes bit.So you are basically okay for a woman to be with a critic so that she gets to attend Cannes.Its her body I know but you seriously still believe she isn't hungry for fame, that she is even willing to have an annual fling for it. -
Akirevada — 12 years ago(June 16, 2013 07:23 PM)
Not all rape victims reporting rapes occurs everywhere, but it's much more likely in India. Saying the situation in India is worse is NOT lying. Are you seriously trying to make it seem that a women being groped is as likely to be reported to police in India than it is in the US?
You're delusional. I visit Delhi and Kolkata every year and yes, my sister and I, always make sure to dress properly. When we wear skirts and shorts, it's worn "properly". I can go out here to beach and wear swimwear or go out at 11 PM in my home clothes and walk around for blocks and blocks and feel completely safe. I would never do the same in Indian cities. Would you in this?
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-9g-wtLM-4RE/TfipcxFTnoI/AAAAAAAAASU/w7iVqYZe Dxs/s1600/Nicole+Scherzinger+crop+top+and+short+shorts.jpg
I agree that the woman's decision making was poor, but how do you explain the other incidents where the other Australian tourist was raped by her driver and not just some random drunkards? And women getting randomly grope (especially western women) in public? My sister and I lucky were lucky to be warned at an early age to change our clothes, but I know people who made the mistake of not doing the same and suffered for it. Stop being defensive. You know it's true. In fact, India is ranked #4 in the world in the country's least safe for women.
I already know that Mallika likes attention and shocking, but I would never compare her to Kim. First, Kim will do anything within the law to get attention and so far we haven't received a sex video or a nude photoshoot from Mallika. Second, the things Mallika says at least have a purpose. When does Kim ever comment on anything other than something superficial? Mallika is hardly an idiot. Third, what's so admirable about Kim sticking to her family? They're all like her; hungry for fame and money no matter what it takes. It's easy to stick to them when you're just like tem.
Finally, I don't take the Internet speculation about her dating some film critic to get invited to Cannes and Internet blogs saying she got lipo (she's always 16d0been stick skinny so why would she get lipo and her lips look the same as they did in Kwhahish) seriously; I'll stick to facts. You have no sources except gossip. I don't really care about those things anyway. -
the_wrinkled_mind — 12 years ago(June 19, 2013 05:51 AM)
So when I provide you with valid stats,you stupidly sweep them aside without a valid argument.and call me delusional.HAHA!We all know who the delusional person here is.
Heres to your pic of Nicole, I post pic of Indian girls in India wearing shorts.
http://cms.outlookindia.com/Uploads/outlookindia/2011/20110725/shorts_2_20110829.jpg
http://oi41.tinypic.com/6izbqe.jpg
AWWWWW but it doesn't suit your agenda.
Oh wait, that must be wrong.How is that possible?India is so so bad.
The reason India was 4th in that list was not just because of 'rape' but because of female infanticide and dowry.Get your facts rights.You can't use that for a rape debate because it suits your agenda.
Women don't get randomly groped here.And if anyone does gets groped here and she raises a voice, I can assure you the man would be badly beaten up.Eve teasers or gropers are dealt with very strictly.
I am sorry if 'YOUR' family forbids you from wearing certain types of clothes.Don't blame the society for that.
Lastly, just recently the media was lambasted by its watchdog for sensationalising the rape news.Rapes happen in India just like everywhere but the media here went overdrive.Rape is problem that exists in India like the whole world.But if you look at the stats, India is not the worst.But according to you stats are not facts.
According to you facts are your point of views which only suit your agenda. -
rsjaswal — 12 years ago(December 07, 2013 09:11 PM)
Please don't compare USA with India. The5b4 reason USA has higher statistics because every single case gets registered unlike in India where half of them are dismissed or never reported. America is so much safer for women than India which everyone knows so there is nothing to argue about.
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Kaskinen — 11 years ago(December 07, 2014 02:19 PM)
Wow! You definitely are the delusional one in this thread and have a clear pro-India agenda. You talk about statistics and facts, but where are yours?
Posting pics of girls in short skirts in a Delhi mall is not the same as the real streets of India. India is one of highest ranked countries in term of gender inequality and sexual harassment. That's a FACT. Would you like links to reports from Economic and Human Rights organizations?
I'll keep it simple of you. Just search for "rape" in Google News and at least 75% of them will come from India. Indian media might have sensationalized that Delhi gang rape, but that doesn't contradict the fact that it's happening. In fact, rapes of tribal and Dalit women don't even get much media attention because no one cares. That Delhi gang rape was reported so much because she came from a "good" background. Where are reports for all the lower caste women who get harassed?
Women don't get randomly groped here? Then what is the reason? Because they're asking for it? Be careful. Your agenda is showing here and you sound like one of those fools who say "homosexuality doesn't exist in India."
FYI, most women do not raise their voices. And are we really supposed to be impressed that men get badly beaten up? Oh, how admirable.
P.S. Your first post is just embarrassing as well. Mallika sensationalizing her career accomplishment does not contradict her point, but of course, you have to focus on who wore the first bikini in Indian films and ignore the real issue.
