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markus010167 — 19 years ago(June 01, 2006 03:52 PM)
try being in her shoes, her childhood life and then tell us again. + the fact that she's been around blacks 4-ever and a long week-end; she's been singing since the age of two. she also has been in show biz since she was eight, singing with a big band accompanying her, singing at weddings and parties; she even had a guest slot on an ep. of The Beverly Hillbillies.
she has been an r'n'b' artist from day 1, signing with Motown Records in 1976, though her first album didn't come out 'till 3 years later. she recorded four albums for them ( her last two were gold records) b-fore she took them to court for non-payment of royalties and signed with Epic Records (five albums including the gold album Starchild, featuring Lovergirl) b-fore winning the case out of court with a cash settlement from Motown. not long afterward, there was a law named after her to protect the rights of recording artists (the Mary Christine Brockert Initiative, also known as the Teena Marie Law).
simply put, marie could've sold out, totally denying her r'n'b' style, be more of a pop artist, make records for the masses, be mega-famous, sell millions of records, make alot of money, and be more accepted than she is now, but she didn't. she said it herself at one time the "pop" stations don't touch her songs as much as the r'n'b' stations do. when you say she ain't a "sista", what does that mean? she's just a 'wannabe'? some say that about tracy chapman, living colour, joan armatrading, etc., and they're not r'n'b' artists. but they don't let stuff like that faze 'em.
i must admit when Cash Money Classics released LaDona', it wasn't bad, but teena being a gangsta mama, no. her new one, Sapphire, far better. no bitterness, just stating the facts, man. she's basically the one of the very few white r'n'b' artists accepted by blacks completely; though crossing over to pop very few times, she has a very loyal r'n'b' fanbase.
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rufus317 — 19 years ago(June 05, 2006 11:14 AM)
Teena Marie is more of a sistah than most of these so called sistah singers. For one as it was stated before Teena unlike Whitney, Beyonce,Mariah, Janet did not sell out to the Pop audience. She eat, sleeps, and exubes R&B. Teena received her sistah card from the Black community wayy before you and I were even conceived, so by saying Teena ain't no sistah is pretty much an insult. Who else do you know that was bad enough to role wit Rick James during his heyday plus at a time when white R&B singers weren't even popular. Teena is and will always be The Ivory Queen of Soul. Even though the music industry does not give her the due credit she more than deserves, the woman is still belting out hits at 50 years old.
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anxiety attack — 19 years ago(July 10, 2006 11:44 PM)
Thank you Markus and rufus (Names sort of reminds me of "Zoolander", lol!), couldn't have said it better. I'm definitely a fan of Teena's.
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bestintheworld82 — 19 years ago(July 11, 2006 08:33 AM)
Teena Marie is more of a sistah than most of these so called sistah singers. For one as it was stated before Teena unlike Whitney, Beyonce,Mariah, Janet did not sell out to the Pop audience. She eat, sleeps, and exubes R&B. Teena received her sistah card from the Black community wayy before you and I were even conceived, so by saying Teena ain't no sistah is pretty much an insult. Who else do you know that was bad enough to role wit Rick James during his heyday plus at a time when white R&B singers weren't even popular. Teena is and will always be The Ivory Queen of Soul. Even though the music industry does not give her the due credit she more than deserves, the woman is still belting out hits at 50 years old.
Oh please, Teena stole her sista card alright. It wasn't handed over to her on a silver platter. Making hits at 50 years old? She hasn't put out an album in a long time. Must be that voice of hers thats getting tired and wore out. Which "real" R&B singer doesn't eat, sleep, and exhales R&B? Sound like you're giving one person alot of credit while throwing others out to dry.
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anxiety attack — 19 years ago(July 12, 2006 07:34 AM)
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bestintheworld82 — 19 years ago(July 12, 2006 08:58 AM)
Actually, if you want to be "age knowledgable", I was out when then woman was singing and I don't see whats the big deal about her. You may like her music but I don't. You got that shenawhore? Please take that **** out your mouth and be nice for a change. Just because I don't like her wannabe music doesn't make me a hater.
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bestintheworld82 — 19 years ago(July 12, 2006 10:21 AM)
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The reason you dont see what the big deal is is bec5b4ause you were a baby in your crib at the time. IF you were aliveyou were not old enough to be part of what was going on at the time. This woman is not from your generation. Just the way you post makes it obvious you are too young to GET IT.
Thats like me saying I dont get elvis. OF COURSE I DONT because he was before my time. I was not there when he was HOT and at the top of his career. Teen was before you time
Fassygirl.
How the hell do you know she wasn't part of my time? Come on now, stop trying to be some kind of music expert, and telling people that they weren't around at the time of a particular artist.
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bestintheworld82 — 19 years ago(July 12, 2006 12:54 PM)
Who the hell made you an authority over someone? I can speak and say what I want about an artist. I don't care how old they are. You know and I know this woman did not come out before my time. She is not Aretha Franklin, or any "real" soul singer like her alright.
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markus010167 — 19 years ago(July 14, 2006 08:25 PM)
oh kay!!! the gloves are off!!
apparently, you failed to notice in 2004, LA DONA' was her first album since PASSION PLAY in 1994, which did well(#3 at r n'b, #6 at pop). her current album, SAPPHIRE, came out in May of this year at #3 r n'b, #24 pop. in between those records she was doing shows, touring, and raising her daughter. b-sides, how many female r n' b artists (black or otherwise, older or younger) have almost total creative leeway with their work (writing, singing, producing, arranging) practically from the beginning; she had that from her second motown record to now. i would say very few. rather hear that 100 x over than some of the crap (r'n'b and otherwise) on the radio or whatever is out there now.
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jaib — 19 years ago(June 20, 2006 02:43 PM)
APLAUSE to you Both!!
Markus010167, that was an AWESOME post! You said everything I wanted to say, and then some! Not only that, but I even learned a few things from your well written post. Thanks again!
Rufus317, you finished it up with even more great knowledge! You took even more words out of my mouth about this great legend. Yet another great post. Thanks!
I'll just add my little two cents by saying Teena Marie is a TRUE legend in every sense of the word, and no one's IGNORANT words can ever take that away from our sista "Lady T." She has EARNED her place in music history, and in our hearts as fans!!! -
bestintheworld82 — 19 years ago(July 10, 2006 10:49 PM)
Great legend? In your opinion she's a great legend. I think you need to get some knowledge of music yourself before triying to applaud someone else on their knowledge. Its a fact, this woman isn't black yet she tries to be.
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thelastpoet05 — 19 years ago(July 14, 2006 04:22 PM)
"Its a fact, this woman isn't black yet she tries to be. "
How does she "try" to be black? Just because she sings R&B? So I guess artists like Tracy Chapman, Lenny Kravitz and Seal are trying to be white because they don't sing R&B?
And I would appreciate it if you didn't come back with a nasty comment as I have not directed one at you. I'm just trying to see where you're coming from.
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jaib — 19 years ago(July 18, 2006 02:46 PM)
You know what thelastpoet05. I think this person is refering to me. Either way, I applaud your comments as well, because they are based on facts, and you sound like an open minded intelligent human being.
Now, to the "crownprince23," if that comment was directed to me.You don't know me from a hole in the wall. AND for your infomation I happen to have plenty of music knowledge. HOWEVER, your comments were based on racial sterotypes, NOT music. How can anyone with ears attached to their head question this womans talent, by claiming she's "trying" to be black. How ridiculous do you sound. Seems like the only one on here lacking music knowledge is YOU!!! -
thelastpoet05 — 19 years ago(July 18, 2006 08:42 PM)
"You know what thelastpoet05. I think this person is refering to me. Either way, I applaud your comments as well, because they are based on facts, and you sound like an open minded intelligent human being."
Thank you jaib. You sound very intelligent and open minded yourself. I absolutely hate it when people make such ridiculous statements. When will people understand that you can't "act" a race or culture? When will they get that just because you may adapt or be influenced by an aspect of another culture (be it music, dress, whatever) does not mean you are trying to be a part of that culture?
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jaib — 19 years ago(July 19, 2006 07:04 AM)
So very true, and I couldn't agree with you more! Teena Marie came into the music industry the right way, and that's just being herself. She has earned her place in music history, and no one can ever take that from her. TALENT is TALENT, no matter what package it comes in.
