What are your film score blasphemies?
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TheRealRandyWatson — 13 years ago(August 18, 2012 12:54 PM)
Okay, here we go!
- Goldeneye is a great score that fits the film perfectly
- Trent Reznor and Atticus Ross deserved their Oscar
- Jerry Goldsmith is a better composer than John Williams
- Elliot Goldenthal wrote the best theme for Batman
- BT should score more films
- James Horner's Troy score is better than Yared's (which is also really good btw)
- John Murphy is one best composer working today
- Brian Tyler is the best composer of his generation
All of us with wings
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megArnold — 11 years ago(January 27, 2015 10:25 AM)
- Jerry Goldsmith is a better composer than John Williams
I like both, but I clearly prefer Goldsmith as well. He and Bernard Herrmann are the dual "gods in my temple"!
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Harlan Ellison
- Jerry Goldsmith is a better composer than John Williams
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random_guy85 — 13 years ago(September 04, 2012 07:16 PM)
Michael Giacchino is highly overrated
Ottman's "X2" didn't do it for you? that's blasphemy.oh wait
and you might enjoy Kevin's thread on FSM
http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?pageID=1&forumID=1 &threadID=72415&archive=0
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justinboggan — 13 years ago(September 12, 2012 03:50 PM)
We had a thread like this at MovieMusicUK:
http://mmuk64.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=general &thread=1564&page=1
Since nobody really posts there anymore except for the PR girl making one PR post after another until page after back page is nothing but PR, it's gone by the way side.
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Island_Life — 13 years ago(February 03, 2013 09:20 PM)
I think Hans Zimmer's later scores are pretty good, but his earlier work is horrible, just horrible. I like Point of No Return, but the score was. atrocious.
I think Nancy Wilson's score for Vanilla Sky is perhaps in the top 25 scores ever made.
The GoldenEye score was pretty good. It's very underrated; I love Eric Serra.
Dave Grusin's score for Sydney Pollack's The Yakuza is one of the finest pieces ever written for the screen. Top 10 scores ever.
John Williams best score in my opinion is for Sydney Pollack's version of "Sabrina."
The scores for "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "For Your Eyes Only" are perhaps the most unimaginative scores ever for a Bond film.
The score for "The Living Day Lights" is among John Barry's best.
Though the score for "Chinatown" is very critically acclaimed, I take it a step further, and say it's perhaps the best film score ever; without a doubt in the top 5.
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ToLiveAndDieInMA — 12 years ago(July 20, 2013 01:56 PM)
- Jerry Goldsmith's score for The Vanishing is one of his best
- James Horner's 4-note motif doesn't bother me much
- A New Hope and much of The Empire Strikes back scores don't do a lot for me
- Hans Zimmer is the WORST
- James Newton Howard is a bland writer
- Goldsmith's original Alien score doesn't fit the film very well, though it's an incredible album
- John Williams score for Nixon is one of his best
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jztzt — 12 years ago(January 02, 2014 01:03 PM)
Let me try:
- Henry Jackman's slick score to GI Joe: Retaliation is better than Alan Silvestri's old-fashioned score to the first film.
- Jerry Goldsmith's ethereal and partly synthesized score to Poltergeist II is better than his more avant-garde score to the first film.
- Although recycled from the first film, I prefer Elliot Goldenthal's wall-to-wall and more flavorful score to Batman and Robin to his score for Batman Forever.
- Although John Ottman is by no means a great composer, he has composed scores that I like.
- I tried, and aside from some scores of his that I like, I cannot embrace Maurice Jarre's music wholeheartedly.
- James Horner's tense and more traditional horror score to Aliens is better than Jerry Goldsmith's more avant-garde score to the first film.
"sometimes nothin' can be a real cool hand. ~ Cool Hand Luke
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mikekuhlman-415-393642 — 12 years ago(February 20, 2014 07:53 AM)
Blasphemies: Pretty much any time the same themes used in an original movie are used in the sequel (or the prequel)!
Even the great John Williams, John Williams the Great, is guilty of this! Duel of the Fates, groundbreaking in The Phantom Menace, is repeated several times in Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith!
The Jurassic Park theme is used several times in The Lost World, even though the characters in The Lost World are on a completely different island than in Jurassic Park!
In Indiana Jones, it's OK that we hear the heroic burst of Indiana Jones fanfare every time Indy does something heroicit's expected.
I love that Williams developed a scherzo for Indy and his dad in the Last Crusade! That was a completely original piece that we hadn't heard before, because we hadn't seen Indy's dad, and hadn't watched father and son do exploits of derring-do, before!
Sometimes this is of necessity, when a theme reminds us the audience of a character's previous feeling in the previous film. Sometimes it's just repetitive "brand name recognition", to get the audience's asses in theater seats, and smacks of selling out, composing laziness. Or maybe it just smacks of the composer doing whatever the hell his director and producer told him to, so the fault is really on them.
Jerry Goldsmith is guilty of this too. The Rambo sequels, despite owning several new themes, all have "It's a Long Road" at the core every time Rambo does something heroic, as if to say "This Road is So LongDoes This Road EVER End?".
So, since we're talking about OUR film score blasphemies, if I were to blaspheme, I would say "it's OK to recycle the same theme over and over again"! -
WhyNotTheJackal — 12 years ago(March 19, 2014 03:11 PM)
Hans Zimmer is totally overrated. The Dark Knight Trilogy, Inception, & Man of Steel all virtually have the same soundtrack. Sherlock Holmes was his only score that i thought was at all original.
Biggest film score blaspheme? There have only been two truly great film score composers. Period. Who? John Williams and Ennio Morricone. They've done some pretty good work. For someone who has listened and played classical music his entire life i am saying this with a fair amount of conviction. Even so, the music of Williams and Morricone doesn't even come close to that of Bach, Beethoven, Chopin or any of the other greats.
Ultimately, a film score can never be considered "great music" due to it's purpose. A film score is meant manipulate the viewer to the specific mood of the scene that it is accompanying. It is background music whether it likes it or not. Played for effect rather than substance.
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megArnold — 11 years ago(January 27, 2015 10:30 AM)
That's hardly blasphemy. But what's worse are his countless cheap imitators/apprentices. Let's face it, like it or not, repetition or not, the only one who can pull off the Hans Zimmer Sound[tm] is Hans Zimmer himself. His copycats just sound awful.
Yes, I'm looking especially at you, Henry Jackman! My ears still got the scars from "The Winter Soldier" to show!
No, Schmuck! You are only entitled to your INFORMED opinion!!
Harlan Ellison