https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/3349847/
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Reedy — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:47 AM)
It's just common sense that law abiding citizens defend themselves, family members, and others with lawfully owned firearms all the time.
Your position would mean you want them to defend against criminals with what? Pepper spray? Baseball bats? Knives? -
Reedy — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 10:39 AM)
You're really not going to like this.
Question: What does the title mean: More Guns, Less Crime?
John R. Lott, Jr.: States with the largest increases in gun ownership also have the largest drops in violent crimes. Thirty-one states now have such laws—called “shall-issue” laws. These laws allow adults the right to carry concealed handguns if they do not have a criminal record or a history of significant mental illness.
Question: It just seems to defy common sense that crimes likely to involve guns would be reduced by allowing more people to carry guns. How do you explain the results?
Lott: Criminals are deterred by higher penalties. Just as higher arrest and conviction rates deter crime, so does the risk that someone committing a crime will confront someone able to defend him or herself. There is a strong negative relationship between the number of law-abiding citizens with permits and the crime rate—as more people obtain permits there is a greater decline in violent crime rates. For each additional year that a concealed handgun law is in effect the murder rate declines by 3 percent, rape by 2 percent, and robberies by over 2 percent.
Concealed handgun laws reduce violent crime for two reasons. First, they reduce the number of attempted crimes because criminals are uncertain which potential victims can defend themselves. Second, victims who have guns are in a much better position to defend themselves.
More:
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MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 01:37 PM)
You're totally wrong, and a typical backwards Leftist.
The Vegas shooter would have gotten guns even if they were
outlawed.
Thugs, criminals and insane people like him are
NOT deterred by laws
. And it's OBVIOUS that he was insane. That is the only logical explanation.
The problem is NOT guns. It's the
thugs, criminals and crazy people.
And I'm not in denial about anything about anything. And I
never
said that sane people are committing crimes is a way to justify them being around. That's a LIE and a
ridiculous
statement. They're justified for
self defense
, and defense against a rouge government. If you choose to be defenseless,
fine.
I choose NOT to be.
That's the main difference between us on the Right and you Leftists. If we don't like guns, we don't own one. If you Loony Lefties don't like them,
you try to ban them for everyone else.
Who put you in charge?? Leave us alone, and mind your own damn business! Go live in Russia where they don't like individual freedom. You'd like it there.
And where did I say guns were going to stop crime? Nothing will stop crime, but I choose to be able to defend myself against it. Taking guns away from
law abiding
citizens would have
NO effect on crime whatsoever.
That's like punishing me because my neighbor broke the law. That's
stoopid!
And I'm not in denial about anything, and my points are
WAY stronger
than your weak Leftist nonsense
.
MAGA! FAFO!
Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 
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MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 03:01 PM)
I own three: an AR-15, a P-38 and an old hunting rife.
- For self defense.
- For defense against the government.
- I enjoy firing them, and do so periodically at a range. I started firing
guns which my father brought home from WW II when I was a boy. I also
enjoyed firing them in the Army. - For sentimental reasons. One is a P-38 like my late father brought home
from WW II, and one is a hunting rifle which belonged to my late uncle.
MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder.
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Penelope — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 04:13 PM)
Yeah, you really need an AR-15.
Have you taken safety courses? Are they registered? Do you have permits? Where do you store them? Where do you store the ammo?
Have you ever had to use any of them in . . . self-defense? -
MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 04:36 PM)
Yes I do. Glad you agree.
I was trained on the M-16 in the Army. The AR-15 is simply the
civilian version
of the M-16. The only difference is that the AR-15 can't fire
fully automatic
like the M-16. So I know the weapon forwards and backwards.
When I purchased them, the gun dealer phoned the FBI to make sure I was a good boy. So the FBI knows I have the weapons. As far as I'm concerned, that's all the government involvement which is necessary. And I do
not
need a permit for these guns. I live in a sane State
run by adults
, and
not
dewy-eyed Leftist children.
And fortunately I have never had to use any of them in self defense, nor do I wish to.
If you would read the attached article, you would discover:
Guns prevent an estimated
2.5 million crimes a year,
or
6,849 every day
. Most often, the gun is never fired.
Every year,
400,000 life-threatening violent crimes
are prevented using firearms.
60% of convicted felons
admitted they avoided committing crimes when they
knew
the victim was armed.
40%
admitted that they avoided committing crimes when they thought the victim
might be armed.
Felons report that they avoid entering houses where people are at home
because they fear being shot.
Fewer than 1 percent of firearms are used in the commission of a crime.
https://fee.org/articles/guns-prevent-thousands-of-crimes-every-day-research-show/
MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. -
MovieManCin2 — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 04:42 PM)
I
did
answer your questions. And as my Bro
AshBroomstick
asked, what is your problem with my owning guns? Is that really any of your business?
MAGA! FAFO! Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. -
Penelope — 4 years ago(June 11, 2021 07:30 PM)
Okay. I was brought up with guns. My father was ex-military. We knew how to care for them, how to break them down, put them together, we were brought to gun ranges and taught how to fire them - accurately. I inherited all my father's guns when he died. I don't need guns. I turned them into the police (all except the Lugar which I gave to my brother).
I'm always curious the rationale behind why people NEED their guns. It's always funny to me. I don't think that, unless you are law enforcement or military, you NEED a gun.