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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — The Wizard of Oz


    CrazyBot — 6 years ago(December 07, 2019 08:35 PM)

    I saw this movie hundreds of times since childhood, and this never occurred to me until tonight.
    Recap: So we know the main characters in Dorothy's dream have counterparts of those she knows in reality. Dorothy envisioned her dream counterparts to have exaggerated fantastical traits of how she really felt about them: the charlatan fortune teller being a charlatan fake Wizard, Miss Gulch who wanted to put down Toto to being the Wicked Witch.
    During the tornado scene, when the dream sequence supposably begins, we see a number of beings making appearances in the window, flying through the twister. A cow, chickens, people on a small boat, and…
    Miss Gulch. Who then transforms into the Wicked Witch.
    But, this is the Wicked Witch of the EAST, not West. We know this because the witch is wearing a slightly different attire but most of all she's wearing the ruby slippers…
    And considering she's in the midst of the twister, this leads to the house landing on her, killing her.
    But, you ask, if Miss Gulch's counterpart was the East Witch, who was the West Witch? Both: Both Wicked Witches were counterparts to Miss Gulch. Dorothy felt the house landing on her was too easy, and she actually felt bad about it, but it left her abhorrence toward her unresolved, so she envisioned Miss Gulch still being alive, so she could take matters into her hands and win the battle against her herself.
    Ending scene: When Dorothy wakes up, all the characters as their real-life are there to comfort her. And they seem more wise and comforting this time around, compared to their appearance pre-dream, as if the accolades the characters received in OZ transferred over to their real selves.
    But Miss Gulch is nowhere to be seen. And she's not even referenced. The dog subplot is dropped.
    Why?
    Get ready for it…
    Miss Gulch is last seen riding her bike when Toto escapes from the basket - and then the twister approaches down the road on which she's traveling. She's bicycling on her way to the police station, far away from shelter, so the implication here is…
    Miss Gulch died in the tornado. A house landing on the Wicked Witch of the East was the real fate Miss Gulch herself. Dorothy didn't like this ending for Miss Gulch. She felt bad about it. She wanted to bring down Gulch herself - enter Wicked Witch of West, which Dorothy overcame herself.
    Dorothy had not entered her full unconscious dream-state until she entered the coloured Land of Oz. In the black and white house, she was experiencing concussion symptoms includin hallucinations. The beings Dorothy saw caught up the twister, were real victims of the twister - although Dorothy had "imagined" them waving and happily gliding along, although in reality their experience was much more tragic.
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      Underage Teenage Boy — 6 years ago(December 07, 2019 08:39 PM)

      Hi PE
      tl;dr

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        Gordo — 6 years ago(December 14, 2019 03:43 PM)

        She killed her then took her shoes. Cold bitch.

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          👱🏻‍♀️ Christina 1986-05-20 👧🏼👱🏻 — 6 years ago(December 15, 2019 04:08 AM)

          Smart.
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            MovieManCin2 — 6 years ago(December 15, 2019 04:14 AM)

            You're WAY overthinking this, sock.
            MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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              The Batman — 6 years ago(December 15, 2019 05:33 AM)

              Do you realize when movies and novellas are written and directed, the screen writers and directors are philosophically piecing together a quandary of ideas and themes underneath the literal visual interpretation? It's not only what's laid out for you. It's what's underneath its core that's important. It's the symbolism. All great movies have it. This had an all-star director Victor Fleming for its time, a gifted cast full of talent, and based on a book by Frank L. Baum. This is nominated for Best Picture. They weren't making a simple kids movie, here. The Wizard of Oz is full of hidden themes.
              Aside from this, its political symbolism regarding populism and imperialism at the time is heavy.
              At this time, the elite wanted gold to be the standard currency. But this hurt blue collar workers, particularly farmers, Scarecrow, and factory workers, tin man, and small midwestern families, Dorothy. Scarecrow's "If I only had a Brain" is analogous to him saying, if he had an education, he would be successful.
              The ruby slippers - originally silver in the novel, represented the silver standard currency. The Wicked Witch, who represented the powerful elite right-wing of the country, wanted to take Dorothy's slippers to make her even more powerful than she already was - and disregarded how worse off Dorothy and co would be without them.
              The wicked witch melting by water represents liquidation - which harmed the elite.
              The lion is a stand-in for William Jennings Bryan. The Cowardly Bryan. Bryan was a populist who stood for the silvery monetary system to benefit blue collar works - but lacked the courage to stand up to elite groups.
              The Wizard was the president. Hence, a charlatan. When Dorothy and gang arrived there, via the gold road, all the staff did was give them a physical makeover. Sure, they felt better about themselves temporarily. But it didn't pay their bills. it's a form of patronization. And it turns out, the best gift the Wizard gave them was a gift that anyone could give.

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                MovieManCin2 — 6 years ago(December 15, 2019 06:20 AM)

                You too are WAY overthinking this.
                MAGA! FAFO! 😎 Schrodinger's Cat walks into a bar, and doesn't. 😎 Dumbocraps: evil people who celebrate murder. 😠

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                  TaRaNRoD — 5 years ago(August 28, 2020 12:56 AM)

                  Hmmm, yeah, I could come up with that kind of theories… if I take a load of LSD.
                  "You're a disease, and I'm the cure!" - Marion "Cobra" Cobretti

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