There is a reason this film won 1 Oscar
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MsELLERYqueen2 — 9 years ago(November 01, 2016 11:47 PM)
Tonight I watched
The Case of the Howling Dog
(1934). Not the sort of film which would have been considered for an Oscar, but it's a terrific film - fast paced, suspenseful, well acted, etc. (Too bad that the other Perry Mason films filmed in the 30s weren't as good as this first film.) The ending of
Howling Dog
is far more complicated - and more interesting - than what
Rosebud
stands for.
Now I'm posting and listening to some of my favourite performers: The Beau-Marks, Jack Scott, Nana Mouskouri. I wonder how long before some
Citizen Kane
fan comes along and criticizes me for not listening to classical music?Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = -
amyghost — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 02:27 AM)
Re: There is a reason this film won 1 Oscar
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by MsELLERYqueen2 2 days ago (Tue Nov 1 2016 23:47:31) Flag | Reply |
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Tonight I watched The Case of the Howling Dog (1934). Not the sort of film which would have been considered for an Oscar, but it's a terrific film - fast paced, suspenseful, well acted, etc. (Too bad that the other Perry Mason films filmed in the 30s weren't as good as this first film.) The ending of Howling Dog is far more complicated - and more interesting - than what Rosebud stands for.
Now I'm posting and listening to some of my favourite performers: The Beau-Marks, Jack Scott, Nana Mouskouri. I wonder how long before some Citizen Kane fan comes along and criticizes me for not listening to classical music?Jim Hutton (1934-79) & Ellery Queen = The only criticism 'Citizen Kane fans' have been making to you are the ones regarding the sort of stupid generalizing statements you make about both that film, and classic film viewers overall. Why don't you quit with the 'toddler peeing on the rug to get the grownups' attention' act already? Are you really that needy for applause? Isn't there anything you have going on for yourselfapart from the Jim Hutton fetish, and the same dozen films you've watched to shredsthat you think might make people take notice of you in a positive manner? Do you really believe your 'reverse film elitism' routine makes you look like anything other than the attention starved brat you give every indication of being? 50 Is The New Cutoff Age. -
Boomer-Baby — 9 years ago(November 04, 2016 07:48 AM)
The reason it didn't win any more Academy Awards is because everyone was afraid to go against Hearst. Three cheers to Orson Welles for being such a brave man.
Back to MEQ, the logical, sensible thing for her to do would be to post on The Howling Dog board. It would be the reverse if someone would go to The Howling Dog board & post that they should be watching Citizen Kane. People would think such person was as mad as a bag of frogs.
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Howlin Wolf — 9 years ago(December 29, 2016 12:04 PM)
But a film needs suspension of disbelief to be good.
Why? It's just as possible to passively appreciate something as it is to actively appreciate it "It doesn't stir me, but it's put together well; I appreciate the craftsmanship". There is nothing wrong in admiring something without being entranced by it.
'Technique' obviously sufficed well enough for SOME people - just not you.
"Your mother puts license plates in your underwear? How do you sit?!" -
Synthia7 — 9 years ago(January 11, 2017 01:40 AM)
The film is well conceived and can provide countless hours of rumination/analysis.
However, it definitely is hard to lose yourself in it. So, I agree that is very hyper aware of itself. There's a lack of heart and humanity to it, but then that fits the theme so that might have been done on purpose.
The design is brilliant though. Reminds me of Inarritu's movies in that I intellectually consume them but can't really enjoy the experience of them.
"I thought you were class,like a high note you hit once in a lifetime."- Young Man With a Horn(1950)
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fud-slush — 9 years ago(January 12, 2017 08:31 AM)
But a film needs supsension of disbelief to be good.
Says who? What absolute garbage. 100s of excellent films outside the realms of the fantastical.
Didn't read much after that. You write very poorly, & are clearly clueless as to the possibilities of cinema, preferring action to script, & sfx to great cinematography. You sound like a 9 year-old.
You're ignorant too. 'Thank god other directors haven't followed its footsteps (sic)', you say (how can anyone follow in a film's footsteps?), but Spielberg, that ultimate hater of escapist cinema, somewhat strangely thinks differently from you:
And here's the uninformed opinion of another exponent of dull cinema:
Perhaps you could say why they're wrong to think as they do.
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archibald14 — 9 years ago(January 16, 2017 08:46 AM)
The expression has nothing to do with genre. "suspension of disbelief" means what the above poster wrote. Surely when you're immersed in a movie you're viewing it as if it was real, no ? It wouldn't be enjoyable if you were constantly reminding yourself that it's a movie.
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fud-slush — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 05:28 AM)
No I don't, as I don't with novels, paintings or opera. It doesn't prevent me from getting involved, but it's possible to be both involved & conscious of the fact that one is being entertained.
If the OP was being that general then he's even more of a cinematically ignorant twat for not being able to see the brilliance of Welles' vision. He also thinks Oscars are a mark of quality - double twat. -
archibald14 — 9 years ago(January 17, 2017 11:09 AM)
The OP was certainly being general. He said "a movie needs", and used an expression that applies to pretty much any kind of movie.
I think a movie puts you in a certain state of mind where you're experiencing the story as if that was real, while also at the same time being in a position to enjoy its artistry. It's a very unique artform in that sense. Music for example is all about the latter. Literature generally veers more toward the former.
Suspension of disbelief is broken when for some reason you stop buying that the story you're watching is real and all you're seeing is actors saying their lines on a set. In many amateurs movies for example suspension of disbelief never really takes off. -
fud-slush — 9 years ago(January 18, 2017 06:56 AM)
Ok, re suspension, but I have to add that the music I listen to is certainly not all about artistry; you need artistry to be able to play, conduct or sing it, but the depth of story in, say, Wagner's Ring Cycle or Tristan & Isolde, or Strauss' Elektra or Bach's B minor Mass, are more likely to take me into suspension territory than many a film would.
Much classical music takes you on a musical journey, but one which has a story-like feel, complete with moments of tension, joy &, normally, a satisfactory ending. Music, for me, is the ultimate art-form, as it communicates without a vocal language or visuals, somehow digging into our emotional cores purely through melodies, themes, rhythms, harmonies or discord. All art-forms - cinema, painting, sculpture, writing, music - are unique in their own ways, though cinema is unusual in that, more often than not, more than one artistic element is needed to create the whole.
The OP is still an idiot, however, & no matter what he said or meant to say.