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    Karl Aksel — 9 years ago(May 14, 2016 05:42 PM)

    There seems to be a contest for who can be most ignorant about what both Christians & Muslims actually believe.
    I'll bear in mind that you yourself said that.
    I thought of that near the beginning at ~10:40 when I heard El Cid exact an oath/pledge from his prisoner never to attack King Ferdinand's kingdom again, whereas according to Islam's taqiya absolutely anything goes (lying, stealing, deceit, killing, raping, etc.)
    No, that is not what taqiyya is. Not remotely. Taqiyya is simply that a Muslim is excused if he renounces his own faith to save his own skin, in facing persecution or death. It is specifically that, and nothing else.
    Most Christians and secularists (most of whom have had some Christian influence regarding telling the truth) haven't a clue about this, expecting Muslims to tell the truth, which shows as gross a misunderstanding of Islam as there is of Christianity when so many foolishly equate it with catholicism or conservativism, in spite of the fact that some of the worst persecutions of true Christians have been at the hands of catholics & conservatives,
    Like you said, there seems to be a contest for who can be the most ignorant about what both Christians and Muslims actually believe. You are a shining example. Not only do you seem to get your information about Islam from propaganda sites, but you also seem to be woefully ignorant on the history of Christianity. In the course of history, Protestants have been every bit as eager to persecute heretics as Catholics, if not more so. Catholics, at least, allowed the defendants the right to an attorney. Protestants did not.
    I would like to add that the ridiculous claim that either Protestantism or Catholicism is somehow
    not
    Christianity, is not worth taking seriously. And
    will
    not be taken seriously by anyone who does not already share that opinion.
    I being one, banned from "catholic" & "conservative" websites alike for pointing out from the Bible how God condemns and prohibits what they claimed.
    Being banned from websites is not the same as being persecuted. I am willing to bet that you were banned for your haughty and condescending attitude, perhaps even obnoxious behaviour, not because of your faith.
    See thereligionofpeace.com for what Islam really is, and desiringGod.org for a rich Christ-centered presentation of the Christian faith, unlike so many which rather wrongly make man so much the center that can make salvation impossible.
    Those are propaganda sites. But given what you have already posted, I am not the least surprised that you unashamedly link to them, apparently thinking them good, objective sources.

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      thomengel-1 — 17 years ago(August 24, 2008 12:03 AM)

      Remaking this film certainly couldn't hurt anything. It's not like it's really a classic. Actually, it's probably one of the worst epics made during that era. Charlton Heston is just downright awful. How that guy ever got a movie contract bewilders me. He's about the most non-actor of any of the Hollywood non-actors. It isn't fair to judge an actor by the movies he's been in, and Heston has been in some fairly famous movies, but he's a drag to watch. John Wayne is a much better actor than Charlton Heston, and Wayne is pretty mediocre.

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        russedav — 12 years ago(July 26, 2013 07:29 AM)

        Though everyone has a right to his opinion, thankfully many aren't as ignorant about movies and actors as this drivel groundlessly impugning Heston's considerable abilities. As the saying goes, those who are able do or teach (Heston did both), those who aren't able criticize, like thomengel-1.

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          lantzn — 11 years ago(August 15, 2014 06:03 PM)

          I would be best if you got up and left right now.

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            leekingswood — 11 years ago(February 28, 2015 07:08 AM)

            Damn, you were just one letter off from quite possibly the best response ever.

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                ccharlie183 — 11 years ago(July 04, 2014 03:13 PM)

                Banderas woudn't work, he's part arabic, part moorish.

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                  Blueghost — 18 years ago(February 07, 2008 11:22 PM)

                  You can't remake this film.

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                    dalbrech — 18 years ago(February 12, 2008 01:53 PM)

                    You can but it would be a lousy idea.
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                      ScarletPimpernel64 — 17 years ago(April 07, 2008 03:26 PM)

                      They need to leave it be.

                      1. They certainly cannot improve on it.
                      2. Everything will just be CGI, which is always disappointing, so why try?
                        "So what else is on your mind besides 100 proof women, 90 proof whiskey, and 14 karat gold?"
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                        dalbrech — 17 years ago(April 07, 2008 03:43 PM)

                        The Death of Charleton Heston makes this an even worse idea.
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                          ScarletPimpernel64 — 17 years ago(April 07, 2008 03:56 PM)

                          True.
                          If they did, good sense would be to wait.
                          "So what else is on your mind besides 100 proof women, 90 proof whiskey, and 14 karat gold?"

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                            marktexavery — 17 years ago(May 07, 2008 07:53 AM)

                            antonio banderas would play as a moor.

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                              PostmortemG — 17 years ago(July 15, 2008 07:39 PM)

                              "You can't remake this film."
                              Agreed. I wish ill-health and a nasty STD on whoever dares remake this.
                              "Cain and Abel will go to Heaven if they can make it through Hell!"
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                                roman8 — 17 years ago(July 16, 2008 10:41 AM)

                                I actually always thought that El Cid is not popular enough as theme, so maybe a remake might be not an altogether dreadful idea. After all, remaking The Fall of the Roman Empire as Gladiator proved a quite successful endeavour.

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                                  PostmortemG — 17 years ago(February 14, 2009 12:02 PM)

                                  "After all, remaking The Fall of the Roman Empire as Gladiator proved a quite successful endeavour."
                                  But Gladiator pales in comparison to T.F.O.T.R.E.
                                  "Cain and Abel will go to Heaven if they can make it through Hell!"
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                                    pedicab_driver — 17 years ago(February 19, 2009 11:25 PM)

                                    We've recently had a medieval Christian-Muslim epic and it flopped at the box-office (Kingdom of Heaven).

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                                      syntinen — 17 years ago(February 20, 2009 09:23 AM)

                                      That was because (a) it had an incoherent script, and the theatrical release made even less sense due to having about an hour roughly chopped out of it to reduce to to a sensible length for showing in commercial cinemas; and (b) it starred Orlando Bloom, who can't act his way out of a paper bag. There's no telling how successful it might have been with a sensible script and a really talented male lead.

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                                        Rueiro — 12 years ago(March 29, 2014 03:25 AM)

                                        A remake??? Half of the final film would consist of CGI effects! And what is worse: the sanctimonious PC brigade would take thorough care that the Christians would be portrayed as racist chauvinists while the Arab wannabe conquerors would be the misunderstood, grossly bullied victims of racial prejudice.

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                                          IndianaMcClane — 12 years ago(March 29, 2014 05:06 PM)

                                          Shortly after
                                          Gladiator
                                          was released and became a big hit producer Arthur Sarkissian intended to do a remake, claiming that this film would be his blueprint, and claimed it would be a superior remake to the original like
                                          Gladiator
                                          was in his mind to
                                          The Fall of the Roman Empire
                                          . (Naturally it's all to our own discretion whether or not we think he's actually right about that.) It got to the point that Martin Campbell was hired to direct and Antonio Banderas to star (the team from the highly successful
                                          The Mask of Zorro
                                          ). But things were slowed down/muddled after conflict escalated in the Middle East and definitively killed after
                                          Kingdom of Heaven
                                          (which also dealt with Christian and Muslim conflict and was set in the Middle Ages) underperformed at the box office. With the epic genre as well pretty much fading away with it sans a few exceptions.

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