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    johnston.scot — 14 years ago(January 21, 2012 01:10 PM)

    Although in this movie, it's the liberal Sen. Jordan who calls the other side "fascist:" referring to the Iselin's party as a "fascist rally."

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      technotrone — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 07:39 PM)

      You are right, totally forgot that. I was however, referring to current media outlets as well as political entities.
      Going into extremes comparing Obama to Hitler and alike.

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        CarFish-jcbnyc — 10 years ago(September 04, 2015 11:33 AM)

        Bush was also compared to Hitler and the like.
        How quickly we forget (whatever doesn't support our argument).
        "Facts are stubborn things"

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            rasheed_node — 13 years ago(March 07, 2013 06:59 AM)

            Rabid American hatred of Communism will prove instrumental in giving birth to Communism in the US tomorrow, may be a day after. Never hate something so strongly, Such a hatred mystifies the hated object and creates stronger attraction, for sure. This is a basic human nature. The American hatred for Communism is unprecedented in the recent human history. AT the end of the day, Communism is a political ideology, it could be unacceptable, at the best not an object of pathological hatred. Existence of a Communist party is not only advisable on the political spectrum of the US but almost in all the democracies of this world, for keeping alive alternate political perception. It's also felt by many that the US hatred for the Communism is a stage managed thing by powers that be and not a natural phenomena. Mind you Communism is not dead, it's just dormant.
            PS: I'm not a Communist!

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              GuyOnTheLeft — 12 years ago(April 30, 2013 10:15 AM)

              Choice (B).
              See a list of my favourite films here: http://www.flickchart.com/slackerinc

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                nedhorn — 12 years ago(May 10, 2013 11:57 PM)

                My conservative father once caught me with a chuck berry album, which was banned in our house. He proceeded to give me a totally serious and angry lecture about how chuck berry was a communist.

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                  Devinm1978 — 12 years ago(July 20, 2013 11:28 AM)

                  Your comments could not be more true! At the time if this film, calling one's political enemy "communist" was a tactical weapon. Today, that word has been replaced by "racist" - as Penn Jillette said on Larry King, you call someone a racist and they automatically lose. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

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                    myuschen — 12 years ago(September 25, 2013 01:49 PM)

                    Nixon in his 1950 smear campaign, Nixon used the term "Pink Lady " for his
                    Democrat opponent Gahagan Douglas.
                    He won, but it earned him the name "Tricky Dick"

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                      charlesheld — 12 years ago(October 02, 2013 12:48 PM)

                      Actually it was Helen Gahagan Douglas's Democratic primary opponent Manchester Boddy, the owner and publisher of the Los Angeles Daily News, who coined the phrase "Pink Lady" to describe her.
                      Both the retiring Democrat incumbent Senator Sheridan Downey and Nixon's future Presidential rival John F. Kennedy supported Tricky Dick, the latter in secret.

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                        gary_overman — 10 years ago(April 21, 2015 07:46 AM)

                        Your comments could not be more true! At the time if this film, calling one's political enemy "communist" was a tactical weapon. Today, that word has been replaced by "racist" - as Penn Jillette said on Larry King, you call someone a racist and they automatically lose. The more things change, the more they stay the same.
                        If no one else had said this, I was going to. Mrs. Iselin's calling anyone who disagreed with her 'communists' was obviously wrong, but is the the use in modern times of 'racist' if you oppose the policies of Obama, not wrong as well?

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                          Eric-62-2 — 10 years ago(April 25, 2015 01:26 PM)

                          It always struck me that Senator Jordan was not exactly the biggest paragon of saintly virtue that this film tries to make us think he is. Part of the problem is casting John McGiver, whose most memorable roles were always playing windbag blowhards (especially his TZ episode) that its impossible to take him seriously as such a figure of nobility.
                          I was I have to say struck by how the script has Jordan vowing to initiate "impeachment" proceedings against Islein if he angles for the Vice-Presidency at the Convention. Anyone with a shred of understanding of Civics 101 would be going, "Huh?" First off, Senators are not impeached by their colleagues, the worse thing they face is expulsion. Even leaving that aside, manipulating delegates at a Convention to angle for a nomination thrown open presumably is hardly what one might consider an "impeachable offense". Finally, granting that the purpose of the plot is to make Islein VP so he can become President, you might expect Jordan to be thinking about the idea of Islein as VP, "Good! That means he's out of the Senate in the most dead-end job possible!"
                          So you see, the fact that Jordan is not the brightest of bulbs when it comes to the Constitution himself, makes it hard for me to think of the guy as the epitome of all that is noble and virtuous. Not that he has it coming to him, but there is such a thing as going too far over the top.

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                            gary_overman — 10 years ago(April 27, 2015 09:39 AM)

                            It always struck me that Senator Jordan was not exactly the biggest paragon of saintly virtue that this film tries to make us think he is. Part of the problem is casting John McGiver, whose most memorable roles were always playing windbag blowhards (especially his TZ episode) that its impossible to take him seriously as such a figure of nobility.
                            I was I have to say struck by how the script has Jordan vowing to initiate "impeachment" proceedings against Islein if he angles for the Vice-Presidency at the Convention. Anyone with a shred of understanding of Civics 101 would be going, "Huh?" First off, Senators are not impeached by their colleagues, the worse thing they face is expulsion.
                            Even leaving that aside, manipulating delegates at a Convention to angle for a nomination thrown open presumably is hardly what one might consider an "impeachable offense". Finally, granting that the purpose of the plot is to make Islein VP so he can become President, you might expect Jordan to be thinking about the idea of Islein as VP, "Good! That means he's out of the Senate in the most dead-end job possible!"
                            So you see, the fact that Jordan is not the brightest of bulbs when it comes to the Constitution himself, makes it hard for me to think of the guy as the epitome of all that is noble and virtuous. Not that he has it coming to him, but there is such a thing as going too far over the top.
                            Good point, eric.
                            I'm sure however, that Jordan would have had other more substantial grounds for any action taken against Iselin. Like you say, that is not grounds for expulsion, or any other senatorial discipline.
                            I did like how the pompous bag of wind, Mrs. Iselin was not what she appeared to be throughout the film, but was herself revealed.
                            I thought that was a neat touch.
                            All-in-all, I liked this film. But then, I like a lot of Frankenheimer films.

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                              movieghoul — 10 years ago(April 28, 2015 10:37 AM)

                              It would have made more sense if Jordan said he would act to censure Iselin (as happened to McCarthy). THat would make him damaged goods on a national ticket.

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                                hodie — 12 years ago(January 29, 2014 06:12 PM)

                                Technotrone, what exactly is your experience with Conservative
                                circles?
                                What names would be call conservatives? Let's face it, there probably are some.
                                Senator Jordan called the Iselins' party a "fascist gathering."
                                Get me a bromide! And put some gin in it!

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                                  CarFish-jcbnyc — 10 years ago(September 04, 2015 11:27 AM)

                                  Kind of like calling everyone a "hater" or a "nazi" when they disagree with you, wouldn't you say?
                                  Ah well, it does get the brain-dead to vote.
                                  "Facts are stubborn things"

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