Did he pick New York because they did not vote for him?
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gevansmd — 14 years ago(October 09, 2011 09:01 PM)
Although the Walter Matthau character is generally perceived as a madman, I think Henry Fonda's President is the only one who truly fits that description. He orders the purposeful bombing of NYC and the murder of its millions of residents as a token of goodwill for the accidental bombing of Moscow. That would make him the single biggest mass murderer in history and in the blink of an eye. What sane person would consider that reasonable.
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pfunkdan — 13 years ago(November 09, 2012 05:50 PM)
Re: " That would make him the single biggest mass murderer in history and in the blink of an eye. What sane person would consider that reasonable."
Phew. At least someone could see this. I can't believe that everyone else seems to just accept the President's decision as reasonable penance. -
jetlag31 — 13 years ago(January 29, 2013 05:37 AM)
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So what would you consider penance of a more reasonable sort?
Bearing in mind that the president's purpose for bombing NY City was not so much to atone for bombing Moscow as to prevent the Russian president being pressured by his generals and civilian advisers to retaliate with their own nuclear weapons, thereby forcing the US to launch more nuclear weapons in turn. In other words, to forestall a more widespread and devastating tit-for-tat exchange.
Which raises the question of what would the Americans have accepted from the Soviets had the roles been reversed? You don't have to look very far. When Osama bin Laden bombed the World Trade Centre and the Pentagon in 2001 America was incensed and immediately set about prepariung to find and retaliate against the perpetrators. So if the Soviets inadvertently hit (say) New York City with an atomic bomb in the same kind of scenario depicted in Fail-Safe do you think even the most grovelling apology from Moscow would suffice to assuage the fury America at large would feel? Even if the US president of the day accepted it, many other Americans would not. They would want revengejust as many in America did following 9/11; and why so many Americans seem to have seen nothing wrong with the assassination (rather than arrest) of OBL by the Seals. America was getting its own back for 9/11.
Viewed from that context, the bombing of NY City in the movie makes sense. It is the horrifying price countries with such weapons may have to pay when the fellow country you have just (accidentally) bombed, killing untold multitudes of its citizens, has the same sort of weapons you do in order to forestall a more widespread conflict! -
ericjg623 — 13 years ago(February 17, 2013 08:28 PM)
I'm guessing no bomber crew in their right mind would ever carry out such an order.
The appropriate response by the pilot would be "Screw you, Mr. President, you want to blow up New York city, do it your own damn self!" -
gmat6441 — 13 years ago(March 18, 2013 05:21 AM)
Then they can happily go back to the smoking radioactive holes that had been their homes that the P.Oed Russians bombed in retaliation. With the clock clicking and so much at risk, the best solution would be one that left no side as being seen as getting off lightly. The pressure to retaliate would be too enormous. Something of equal value to the US as Moscow to Russia must be offered. Like others have said, what would you accept if someone nuked your capital city?
The orders would come down the chain of command, but someone high up would probably select someone that they personally trusted to carry out the mission. Those making the decisions would be out a job the next day, but thirty years later, they would be credited with making the gutsy and correct decision. -
Mister_Anderson — 19 years ago(September 14, 2006 05:45 PM)
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