I don't get why Katharine Ross was kicked off of the set.
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ecarle — 18 years ago(October 25, 2007 05:44 PM)
You have to remember, this was near the end of the dying "studio system" that had been in place for decades, with unions in place and older men (almost invariably ONLY men) fearing the younger generation and anybody hassling their way of doing things.
There was one old DP, Russell Metty, who worked both on "Spartacus" and the TV show "Columbo," and he famously gave young director Kubrick crap on "Spartacus" and young director Spielberg crap on "Columbo" ( refusing to set up the shots like they wanted, or kicking the light stand across the floor at Spielberg.)
These were hidebound old men, scared of losing their jobs, and a lot of them did when the 70's came.
Katherine Ross also said that the stunt men riding the horses were angry she was on the camera, too. Lots of those old-time stunt men were macho and MEAN.
And George Roy Hill was somewhat of a tough-guy director, so you figure:
Hill saw Katherine Ross "undercutting" all his camera operators and his stunt men, and his own directorial authority (those guys get mad if an actor even yells "cut") and figuredhe had to throw Ross off the movie except for her scenes.
Hollywood was very macho then, and it still has its macho men now.
P.S. I assume the cinematographyer, Conrad Hall, felt bad after all this. He let Ross do it. btw, Ross was very authoritative about camera technicals in her interview. -
slokes — 18 years ago(January 26, 2008 10:47 PM)
Ross described the moment after as a kind of a joke, her helping out a short-handed crew with Conrad Hall's willing concurance, not thinking it might rub some of the professional technicians on set in the wrong manner. George Roy Hill's reaction was strong and immediate, and he didn't let it go thereafter. Even a year later, when he was describing the film in a VO for a documentary that was shown at Yale, his alma mater, he talks about his pleasure working with the cast "except for Katharine Ross, whom I never developed a rapport with". Or words to that effect.
This is all from the great DVD, which also seems to suggest that Ross's footage made it into the finished film. -
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b_brandon49 — 17 years ago(December 10, 2008 05:30 PM)
If I was a director I would get awfully bull-bleep- if one of the actors/actresses in my movie had terrible moxy enough to shoot a scene! I wouldn't have to be macho either to get mad. The actors and actresses are just hired to act not direct as well! Case closed!
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adsdarts — 16 years ago(February 24, 2010 12:26 AM)
Ive read in a few books/interviews that Katharine Ross was a bit of a drama queen , and could be VERY difficult to work with
. in a lot of films
A Hollywood Actress a bit of a D!!ck ???? Never ! lol
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Balthazar Bee — 15 years ago(April 29, 2010 11:13 AM)
According to J.P. Donleavy's "A History of The Ginger Man", George Roy Hill was good friends with the author, as well as their mutual comrade Gainor Crist, who frequently sought financial and moral support (and got it) from the director.
Crist and Donleavy are the stuff of legend as far as I'm concerned, so that's a golden character reference in my book.