Just because there is a general war background to everything does not mean that putting a bunch of cynicism and negativi
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craigbenting — 9 years ago(June 02, 2016 11:14 PM)
This was an anti-war film? I thought it was a flip-the-middle-finger-at-the-establishment anti-draft film. Much more effective as that.
And it was funny, but you have to be a grown-up with a sense of humor. I never used to think it was funny, but that was when I was 10 and laughed at the TV series (which was mostly funny only because of the canned laugh track). -
sfrmiw — 9 years ago(June 05, 2016 12:29 AM)
I am a grown-up. It's not funny. I've spoken with at least 2 other grown-ups that also didn't find it funny. It's pretentious, condescending and cynical.
I am a huge Altman fan. I love The Player, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, etc.
The Player was cynical but it was fun. McCabe and Mrs. Miller was cynical and dark. MASH is cynical and mean-spirited. -
spookyrat1 — 9 years ago(August 03, 2016 02:23 PM)
I've spoken with at least 2 other grown-ups that also didn't find it funny.
Yeah, I know, your mum and your dad and let me tell you they were nodding their heads to appease you.
Yes the film has a cynical tone and that contributes towards its terrific sense of humour.
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sfrmiw — 9 years ago(June 06, 2016 01:36 PM)
Yet not too young to get Shampoo, The Player, McCabe and Mrs. Miller, Citizen Kane, Vertigo, Dr Zhivago, Touch of Evil, M, Lawrence of Arabia, Days of Heaven, Mean Streets, The Deer Hunter, The Graduate, Singin in the Rain, All About Eve, Chinatown, Dr Strangelove, Barry Lyndon, Midnight Cowboy, Easy Rider, The Third Man, Bicycle Thieves, Pierre le Fou, Jules and Jim, etc, etc, etc times infinity. Amazing how I was able to "get" all of these old movies but somehow MASH eluded me. It must be the most brilliant film ever made, I guess, and my own brilliance finally found its natural limit.
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sfrmiw — 9 years ago(October 19, 2016 03:24 PM)
Fair enough, I did go full Trump.
Let's step back and review: I post a negative review of the film. No personal attacks, just a negative review. Let's review the responses:
Craig: "you have to be a grown-up with a sense of humor" to like it.
Cruff: called me an beep and prick
You: called me poindexter
Spooky: brought my mom and dad into the discussion
Me: went full Trump.
Yes, of course I am the problem. I went full Trump after being personally attacked by a bunch of strangers for merely posting a negative review of a film. Sure, I'll sign off on that. I am the immature one. Responding to movie reviews with personal attacks: the definition of maturity. Thanks! -
roch-19121 — 9 years ago(November 17, 2016 03:19 PM)
The thing that failed to make this film anti-war and ,,change my mind'' is fact that the film is set in Korean War. Which was one of (If not the most) the most moral and just interventions in history. (Like II World War Korean War was also started by totalitarian dictatorship which must have been stopped by any means)
,,There is not a single pro-war person'' thats right. I seriosly doubt whether there is really a person who is ,,pro-war''. Everybody is anti war, but some wars are just sad but necesseary duty (Korean War was one of them) -
shieldsdraeger — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 04:17 PM)
The thing that failed to make this film anti-war is (the) fact that the film is set
in (the) Korean War.Altman's original intention was that the film be about the Vietnam War, as much as a film shot in the southern California desert can be. It was the studio who made him add the crawl at the beginning setting it in Korea.
Any work that deals honestly with war is inherently "anti-war" and no-one who thinks
seriously about war is "pro-war". Some wars are justified, some not so much.
