'I've come for you Margaret'
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patpatterson — 13 years ago(May 29, 2012 10:29 PM)
"He had more than one reason to do her in. First, she was involved with the porn film Doreen was coerced into. Strike one".
So was Glenda but she only got a beating from Carter iirc.Anyway unless she forced Doreen into doing the film she didn't deserve to die for just being involved in the film.
"Then she told Gerald and Sid's goons he would meet her on the bridge, where they showed up to attempt his capture. Strike two".
Most likely she was being coerced into cooperating with them.Carter doesn't seem to make any allowance for this.
"Yes, his killing of her was brutal and cold, but she deserved it."
I don't think the reasons you have given are strong enough to say she deserved to die.She was just a hooker at the end of the day and not a sinister gangster.And you and others have pointed out Carter may have killed her just to try and frame Kinnear so he probably didn't care whether she deserved it or not and that makes him a scumbag. -
carthur27 — 13 years ago(August 05, 2012 03:40 PM)
"So was Glenda but she only got a beating from Carter iirc.Anyway unless she forced Doreen into doing the film she didn't deserve to die for just being involved in the film."
Didn't Jack Carter lock Glenda in the boot of the car which was knocked off the docks by his adversaries into the water where she presumably drowns? If so, circumstances led to her death before we find-out what Carter ultimately planned for Glenda. -
jh66 — 13 years ago(October 25, 2012 03:28 PM)
Margaret was a cheap slag co-starring in seedy porn flicks and screwing Frank Carter behind her hubby's back and flitting from fella to fella. She even said defensively on the Iron Bridge to a mocking Carter "Look, I can't help what I am".
She knew that Jack knew her role in the death of Frank, and knew that she was a dead whore along with many others.
Demeaning and killing everyone was Jack's sarcastic (and psychotic) way of pissing on the town he hated coming back to ("This stinking craphouse"). -
rochelle-rochelle — 13 years ago(November 29, 2012 11:08 AM)
I hated the margaret death scene. He could have traced the murder back to that guy without leaving a trail of clothes. I hated that she had to strip and him saying "keep your pants on" just creeped me out. Why didn't he just shoot her? Why go to the trouble of getting a drug to inject in her? It was a bit overplayed and overdramatic. I can't watch that scene. It just seems too real.
Randy lay there like a slug. It was his only defense. -
Kawada_Kira — 11 years ago(April 09, 2014 07:32 PM)
That was a pretty dark and brutal scene. I hadn't known though, until reading this thread, that Margaret had been in the porn film. I hadn't recognized her in it. So when I watched the movie, I thought he was just using her as a sacrifice even though she wasn't involved at all, just to be able to get Kinnear into more prison time. But I get now that he did it because she had gotten his niece/possible daughter into that porn film, when he had originally thought of her as being a sort of mother/older sister figure to Doreen, who should have been protecting her. Obviously he would have felt betrayed and even more furious than he already was, which explains why he did what he did. Still dark and sadistic, but more understandable than I had originally thought it was.
"The comfort of the rich depends upon an abundant supply of the poor."- Voltaire
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activista — 11 years ago(March 08, 2015 10:51 PM)
I like the film (even though it is sexist,violent as hell,even for a 70's film) but,yeah, that scene was out cold and dark and brutal, just like the rest of the film. And, yeah, Carter was one mean cold-blooded son-of-a-b****-all that destruction he sowed came back to bite him in the end.
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parknourie — 9 years ago(October 03, 2016 06:21 PM)
That really was something to behold.
I'm not sure if there was film with a scene to such degree before this.
It was really cold and awful and yet the audience feels that justice is being served.
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