Insanely overrated
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Halloween
npiazza91 — 10 years ago(March 21, 2016 05:36 AM)
First off, let me just say that I m a huge slasher fan. Now, there are very few slasher films that are actually good, but I watch them for the entertainment. I try to judge horror movies based off perceived quality instead of how much the film entertained me, or in a similar sense, how much I liked it. Take a film like "The Texas Chainsaw Massacre" 1974 for example. That film is very good quality horror film making, AND I enjoyed it immensely, still in 2016. Friday the 13thas much as I love the franchise, it's garbage. The best film is The Final Chapter, which manages to be a very solid slasher film. A Nightmare on Elm Street is my favorite horror film of all time, only rivaled by the original Evil Dead. However, ANOES is a very well made film, especially for 1984. It's scary, it's crazy and it's still effective. HalloweenI really think it's overrated. Don't get me wrong, the atmosphere and camera work is gold but on an entertainment level, it's just not there. The film is slow, boring and even for a slasher, it just falls flat. Why would I watch this over a film with more kills, better kills and a more intense story? To commit your film as a slasher is to commit your film as aslasher. Halloween does not fit the criteria of a slasher film, in fact it's too smart for that. That being said, it's neither scary nor intense. It tries to be a slasher but instead winds up as something more, which in the case of a slasher film, ends up not being that great. This film wants to be a slasher, and it wants to be deep, but it doesn't quite reach the milestone of being either. ANOES was creative. If you look at this film from a film making perspective, it's great, but as a viewer I find myself bored. Michael Myers is nothing more than a generic slasher villain and the atmosphere drags instead of drawing you in. From an entertainment perspective, The Final Chapter is a better film that this. I've wanted to love this film for the past 15 years of my life since I saw it, but nothing about this film keeps me coming back for more, and I am a huge horror movie fan. I keep hearing about how amazing this film is, but I just don't see it. Don't get me wrong, it's a good film, but the one word I think of when I think if this film is "boring".
Anyone else think this film is overrated? I feel like this films' reputation gives it more praise than it deserves, which makes everyone and their mother jump on the bandwagon because in the world of horror, it's "cool" to think of this film as "amazing". -
Marmadukebagelhole — 10 years ago(March 21, 2016 06:32 AM)
I don't mind people coming at movies I love and rating it based on the angle they are coming at it from. Slasher fan, horror fan whatever.
But this
it's "cool" to think of this film as "amazing".
Why? I get folk having different needs and points of reference of how they reckon certain films should be paced and the tone they should take, but being paranoid about why other people would ignore all your criteria and love something for what it is and not slate it for no meeting your preconceived notions, what's that got to do with rating a film? Worried that you are not cool because you don't love the film?
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cjh8504 — 10 years ago(March 21, 2016 12:43 PM)
I actually agree with, Barn. While, there are boring parts in Halloween, and everyone knows I dislike Nancy Loomis immensely, it's also riveting. And particularly the last 15 minutes or so, are edge of your seat exciting. I think.
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kurt7825 — 10 years ago(March 24, 2016 11:20 PM)
yeah. also, i watch newer movies like It Follows and the Paranormal movies and while i really like them they are just as slow paced as Halloween.
i'm not sure why younger people find Halloween so boring. i find the scariest parts to be when Michael is stalking laurie on the street. of course the killing scenes and chase scenes are scary to. it seems like something creepy or scary is always happening -
simest — 10 years ago(March 25, 2016 04:54 PM)
I agree with Kurt.
It is a mystery to me why people find any part of HALLOWEEN boring - day sequences or night.
At 90m it is a relatively short moviethere's hardly time for it to drag.
We have barely 30m of daytime sequence in the movie. In that short time we have Laurie stalked early on at the Myers house (great scene), again while in class (great scene), again on the way home behind the bush (great scene), again when she gets home out the back yard (great scene).
We should also throw in menacing moments like Annie's "speed kills" - where Myers is again prevalent and the danger ever close and the fabulous schoolyard sequence where a bully is seized by Myers and Tommy then ominously stalked - not to mention Laurie and Annie tailed by Myers en route to the Doyle/Wallace street.
That is 30 short minutes punctuated regularly by so many great moments - each of which adds a growing sense of threat and looming danger to the last.
I mean for heavens sake.how much more does one want?
Should we just fill every second with incident to avoid a 5m stretch where essential plot/dialogue scenes play out?
We're all different of course but as I said, I'm quietly amazed and in some ways saddened that people could be bored through this when there is so much to appreciate.
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cjh8504 — 10 years ago(March 26, 2016 04:26 PM)
It's a little slow paced. Sim was saying all those daytime scenes were great, of course that's just his opinion.
The punctuation to those scenes, where you saw Myers is all top notch. But just the girls talking books and cheerleading , I could do without.
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ThiefOfStars — 10 years ago(March 26, 2016 05:36 PM)
But just the girls talking books and cheer leading , I could do without.
But what would you like teenage girls in the 1970's (or any decade) to talk about to establish themselves as relatable human beings and characters that you would care about?
Like it or not, those scenes established the girls as individuals Laurie the studious introvert, Lynda the air headed, boy crazy cheerleader and Annie the sarcastic smart-ass and if you 'could do without' those scenes how would you have established the above without the existing scenes that lasted all of what, 1>2 minutes?
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