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Would you try out the sensory deprivation tank?

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    myklesemailaddress — 19 years ago(January 26, 2007 06:54 PM)

    yeah ive actually read 'the scientist' a novel autobiography by lilly. ive had an interest in the idea and lilly long before i saw this movie. what you need to take in an isolation tank is ketamine, or even just lying in bed. im sure you are all familiar with k. though k in submersive water is a drowning hazard, prime example DM Turner. do a search, pretty interesting guy too.

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      craig-884 — 18 years ago(August 18, 2007 07:44 AM)

      "[Are] people who have done this type of thing are like really overly peaceful people?"
      That's an interesting concept, considering how far the war industry has gone in taking over US foreign policy. "Overly peaceful" - not even sure what that could mean anymore.
      It is true that John Lilly, who tried for years to communicate directly with dolphins and made some remarkable discoveries about them in the process, seems to be a peaceable person. The few people I've known who experimented with sensory deprivation also have been fairly serene.
      I never got around to trying an SD tank but I'd certainly want to experiment with one clear-minded several times before trying it on acid or other psychedelics. Of course I'd travel to a less repressive country where such experimentation is legal to do so. Wouldn't anybody? I wonder if such a free place still exists anywhere.

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        mineofilms — 19 years ago(February 06, 2007 12:37 PM)

        sure would, what is the worst thing that will happen, turn into a caveman style ape, masterbate and throw it at everyone, doesn't most the male race behave in such a way, i think when this film was first shown that would have been odd to see on the street not today, it is a Jerry Springer Standard, lol Mineo

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          terror_and_submission — 19 years ago(February 21, 2007 05:41 PM)

          Sensory deprivation is definitely pretty cool. The whole ape thing in the movie I thought was kind of stupid and took away from the really profound stuff. The sort of regression into naked thoughts of sensory deprivation opens a lot of doors of thinking. It can be explored with lucid dreaming as well, and psychaedellic drugs would only take it to new levels (maybe dangerous levels).

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            mineofilms — 19 years ago(March 07, 2007 11:40 AM)

            maybe? ha, sure it would, taking those kinds of drugs do very weird things to a person thinking patterns, i know from first hand experience, i just wish i would have a tank to explore, lol, anyone know where i can find one, lol?

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              howcanyoubesure — 18 years ago(August 01, 2007 10:16 AM)

              " The whole ape thing in the movie I thought was kind of stupid and took away from the really profound stuff."
              That's exactly what I thought when I saw that the film was going to go that way.

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                davidemartin — 19 years ago(March 17, 2007 12:32 PM)

                I'm a little ambivalent about the things, givcen the only two times I've seen them used on film, they were used for unfortunate effect. In the 1968 pilot film HAWAII 5-0, the Red Chinese spymaster Wo Fat uses a sensory deprivation tank concealed in a tanker's hold to mentally break spies. He almost broke MacGarrett!

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                  Nephilim-6 — 18 years ago(May 12, 2007 06:00 PM)

                  Hell yeah that would be cool. I wouldn't take drugs though while doing it. Bad experiences with hallucinagenic drugs.
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                    gnolti — 18 years ago(May 13, 2007 07:24 AM)

                    I expect it's kind of like having an MRI underwater.
                    This is not a psychotic episode. This is a cleansing moment of clarity.

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                        gnolti — 18 years ago(May 15, 2007 04:02 AM)

                        I wouldn't be surprised.
                        This is not a psychotic episode. This is a cleansing moment of clarity.

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                          howcanyoubesure — 18 years ago(August 01, 2007 10:21 AM)

                          Yes I would try , but I'm afraid I wouldn't be able to bear the claustrophoby.
                          If I managed to do it the first time , I would try it again with cannabies. I don't know if I ever would have the courage to use LSD or mushrooms in a SD tank though, but I'm a bit jealous of those who have the guts.

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                            Drillbitch — 18 years ago(August 21, 2007 10:59 AM)

                            I've done floatation tanks a few times, not quite the same but heading in the direction of the Sensory Deprivation Tanks. It's quite spooky floating in the dark with your own breath being the only sound you can hear.
                            Question: Did you ever hurt yourself to make somebody sorry?

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                              Davidreefer — 18 years ago(October 19, 2007 09:15 PM)

                              they don't use them in gitmo, they don't need to. The torture technique known as "the vietnam" where the subject is forced to stand on a box with a bag over his head is enough to induce sensory deprivation, and a sense of overwhelming disorientation. Add in electrodes attached to the fingers to instill fear of being shocked any second, and it breaks the mind of the subject quickly enough. A dark room achieves the same result. The main goal with interrogation based sensory deprivation is to deprive the person of human contact, to the point where they want to see and interact with any living person, and will become subservient to even their own captor, if only for the interaction. A tank would take up space, they'd need to keep it the right temperature, keep it filled with magnesium sulfate, and would need to lock the subject in, which would make it easy for him to drown himself, so it's not practical to use as a torture device. It only works if you want to be in it.

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                                nosnojsirhc — 17 years ago(April 30, 2008 03:34 PM)

                                if i built the mother myself, i would. if someone else was operating, heck no.

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                                  andy-752 — 17 years ago(July 06, 2008 05:40 PM)

                                  Actually, a slight temperature variance too hot or too cold and you can end up in trouble in a tank. Much better off with a well intended operator the first few times.

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                                    nosnojsirhc — 17 years ago(July 07, 2008 03:24 PM)

                                    What, there's not a plug at the bottom I can pull to release the water? Is this a Houdini act? I have to figure out how to get out or how to signal? Forget it. I'm out.

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                                        alienjesus — 17 years ago(August 12, 2008 12:10 AM)

                                        Hell, I've been wanting to do it since I saw it on the simpsons.
                                        But now I REALLY want to.
                                        I should have just done the honest thing and murdered those emus

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                                          Brysonashultz — 17 years ago(November 09, 2008 08:36 AM)

                                          Yeah, why not? I love trippy, weird stuff and living it would be even better!
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