Extended cut
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Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(October 04, 2011 07:36 AM)
and I (and most of my friends) remember, very clearly a 3hr (give or take) version airing on Encore way back in the day. Unfortunately, none of us had Encore at the time (being broke sucks) so we were unable to watch it.
Yesterday, I called a old friend who ran a rare video rental store in Tampa (one of the only, at the time to carry the European cut of Dune before DVD took off) and he said he didn't have it anymore, but it DID exist at one time and that he got his copy in Europe. Unfortunately, as is the case with VHS, it eventually degraded and became unwatchable.
So the next step would be to check any sci-fi/comic conventions to see if any of the vendors that carry the oddball/rare/foreign cuts of movies has it.
One never know what one will find there.
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ekmyers — 14 years ago(January 24, 2012 09:29 AM)
Okay, I'll bite.
So what does this extended cut that no one but you has ever heard of supposedly contain?
Erik Kristopher Myers
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Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(January 25, 2012 07:14 AM)
Hence the reason for my search.
I don't know..I only saw it advertised way back when the TV Guide was smaller and had complete movie listings in the back.
It said it was a extended version and was a little over 3hrs long, as I recall.
I saw it advertised several times in a month playing on Encore (before there was a Encore multiplex) but since I didn't have, nor could afford the movie channels, I couldn't get it.
But I and several of my friends remember it being listed.
PLUS a friend of mine in Tampa who ran a rare VHS rental place use to have a copy he found in Europe but, as with the case with VHS, had degraded to become unwatchable.
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ekmyers — 14 years ago(January 25, 2012 08:18 AM)
Two possible explanations:
- Like Boorman's EXORCIST II, EXCALIBUR was re-edited, and for a while, only the edited version was available on TV and home video. In both cases, the film was then re-released in it's original (longer) format. This may have been false advertising.
- Most channels "round up" a run time to fit hourly blocks; hence it being listed as three hours when it wasn't.
No documentation exists for a version longer than we have, so my belief is that this is a misconception based on confused marketing/advertising.
Erik Kristopher Myers
Writer/Director ROULETTE
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Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 07:18 AM)
Maybebut I recall the ad saying it was a "extended version" of the movie which, if it was the original theatrical version, they, as a movie channel wouldn't say. And I've never known a pay channel to round the time of a movie up that long. The original version has since run on the same channel several times and it was never advertised as such, nor was the time rounded up.
And, as I've said, my friend in Tampa (who use to run a rare VHS rental store) remembers having it as a "European cut".
So, who knows?
I'll keep looking at conventions, etc. because one never knows what one will find there.
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ekmyers — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 08:29 AM)
Though I remain sceptical, I wish you luck in your search. Please keep us posted. I hope you come back to tell me I was wrong!
ekm
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laurence01 — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 04:26 AM)
What is in the extended cut that is not in the regular cut?
You miss the point of my reply. If what I said is true (and I do mean if because it was only a guess) then there is no extended cut, just the theatrical cut and the shortened one. -
Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 07:16 AM)
please read the whole thread.
I saw this listed in the TV guide playing on Encorea pay movie channelNOT regular TV so there would be no reason to air the "shortened version" seen on regular TV.
Also the listing clearly said "extended version" to list it as such and then to show the theatrical version would be false advertising, and in all the years since, when they show the theatrical cut, they don't list it as the "Extended version".
Lastly, A friend of mine who use to run a rare VHS rental store use to have it as a "European Cut" but his tape had long degraded as to be unwatchable, so, to date, I haven't found it and don't know what the difference is aside for it being slightly over 3 hrs long.
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koppmeier_kevin — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 07:40 PM)
I found this on wikipedia:
According to Boorman, the film was originally three hours long; among scenes that were deleted from the finished film but featured in one of the promotional trailers was a sequence where Lancelot rescued Guenevere from a forest bandit.
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jh66 — 14 years ago(February 11, 2012 09:01 AM)
According to Boorman, the film was originally three hours long; among scenes that were deleted from the finished film but featured in one of the promotional trailers was a sequence where Lancelot rescued Guenevere from a forest bandit.
I'm in the UK where they don't usually cut films like they do in the US, and have never seen this version with that trailer clip. We have the long 2hrs 20mins version.
I don't even know why it was cut from the final.
If the c.3hrs version ever did exist, I'd like to hear about it here? This was the debate about
Caligula- many supposed versions and now it is not banned but out on dvd?
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preppy-3 — 13 years ago(April 19, 2012 06:37 AM)
I talked to a friend who knows all about "Excalibur". He said the original cut was three hours BUT never released. The director himself cut it down to 140 minutes and he said the material he took out either didn't work or slowed the movie down too much. So there WAS a 3 hour version but it was never released and the director is happy with the 140 minute version. Maybe Encore thought they had an extended version but didn't. They're made mistakes on the running times of their movies before.