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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Excalibur


    Darcsyde01 — 15 years ago(February 27, 2011 10:44 PM)

    I remember quite a few years ago, before I had Encore, they were advertising a extended cut of Excalibur of about 3 hours (or more) long.
    Does anyone have any info on what was added and where one might find a copy?
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      MovieMan1975 — 14 years ago(September 29, 2011 02:18 PM)

      I really don't think that exists.
      the final cut of the movie is 140 minutes. There is a shorter version, which I believe they play on TV and the sex, nudity, and gore is edited out.

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        Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(September 30, 2011 07:52 AM)

        I remember that version too..but I (and a few of my fellow geeks) remember that clearly.
        It ran on Encore way back in the day (when the TV Guide was the small mag that actually told you what was playing and had a movie guide in the back) for about a month..was gone for a year and came back. I decided to try Encore then, but when they hooked me up.it had stopped playing.
        Oh wellguess I'll check the comic/sci-fi conventions for a bootleg.
        D. v~~v

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          MovieMan1975 — 14 years ago(October 01, 2011 09:44 AM)

          bootleg of what? the edited version? why on earth would you want to watch that and not the complete film on BluRay???

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            Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(October 02, 2011 07:31 AM)

            nonot the edited version..the extended 3 hour version that played on Encore a few years back. I have the complete, theatrical version on DVD already, but want to see the extended cut.
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              MovieMan1975 — 14 years ago(October 04, 2011 06:36 AM)

              there is no extended cut, just the 140 min version.

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                Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(October 04, 2011 07:36 AM)

                and I (and most of my friends) remember, very clearly a 3hr (give or take) version airing on Encore way back in the day. Unfortunately, none of us had Encore at the time (being broke sucks) so we were unable to watch it.
                Yesterday, I called a old friend who ran a rare video rental store in Tampa (one of the only, at the time to carry the European cut of Dune before DVD took off) and he said he didn't have it anymore, but it DID exist at one time and that he got his copy in Europe. Unfortunately, as is the case with VHS, it eventually degraded and became unwatchable.
                So the next step would be to check any sci-fi/comic conventions to see if any of the vendors that carry the oddball/rare/foreign cuts of movies has it.
                One never know what one will find there.
                D. v~~v

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                  MovieMan1975 — 14 years ago(October 04, 2011 07:35 PM)

                  well you'd think the details page on imdb would list an extended cut.but it seems that officially the 140 min version is it.

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                    Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(October 05, 2011 09:00 AM)

                    Well IMDB has been wrong before.
                    If I have any success in locating a bootleg I'll be sure to update it.
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                      ekmyers — 14 years ago(January 24, 2012 09:29 AM)

                      Okay, I'll bite.
                      So what does this extended cut that no one but you has ever heard of supposedly contain?
                      Erik Kristopher Myers
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                      www.imdb.com/board/23138460/

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                        Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(January 25, 2012 07:14 AM)

                        Hence the reason for my search.
                        I don't know..I only saw it advertised way back when the TV Guide was smaller and had complete movie listings in the back.
                        It said it was a extended version and was a little over 3hrs long, as I recall.
                        I saw it advertised several times in a month playing on Encore (before there was a Encore multiplex) but since I didn't have, nor could afford the movie channels, I couldn't get it.
                        But I and several of my friends remember it being listed.
                        PLUS a friend of mine in Tampa who ran a rare VHS rental place use to have a copy he found in Europe but, as with the case with VHS, had degraded to become unwatchable.
                        D. v~~v

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                          ekmyers — 14 years ago(January 25, 2012 08:18 AM)

                          Two possible explanations:

                          1. Like Boorman's EXORCIST II, EXCALIBUR was re-edited, and for a while, only the edited version was available on TV and home video. In both cases, the film was then re-released in it's original (longer) format. This may have been false advertising.
                          2. Most channels "round up" a run time to fit hourly blocks; hence it being listed as three hours when it wasn't.
                            No documentation exists for a version longer than we have, so my belief is that this is a misconception based on confused marketing/advertising.
                            Erik Kristopher Myers
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                            Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 07:18 AM)

                            Maybebut I recall the ad saying it was a "extended version" of the movie which, if it was the original theatrical version, they, as a movie channel wouldn't say. And I've never known a pay channel to round the time of a movie up that long. The original version has since run on the same channel several times and it was never advertised as such, nor was the time rounded up.
                            And, as I've said, my friend in Tampa (who use to run a rare VHS rental store) remembers having it as a "European cut".
                            So, who knows?
                            I'll keep looking at conventions, etc. because one never knows what one will find there.
                            D. v~~v

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                              ekmyers — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 08:29 AM)

                              Though I remain sceptical, I wish you luck in your search. Please keep us posted. I hope you come back to tell me I was wrong!
                              ekm
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                                laurence01 — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 12:13 PM)

                                They may also have listed the theatrical version as extended if they had previously shown the shortened version. It is true that a TV showing of an 140 minute film could easily have run for three hours.

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                                  ryanoconnor-1 — 14 years ago(January 26, 2012 11:59 PM)

                                  What is in the extended cut that is not in the regular cut?

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                                    laurence01 — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 04:26 AM)

                                    What is in the extended cut that is not in the regular cut?
                                    You miss the point of my reply. If what I said is true (and I do mean if because it was only a guess) then there is no extended cut, just the theatrical cut and the shortened one.

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                                      Darcsyde01 — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 07:16 AM)

                                      please read the whole thread.
                                      I saw this listed in the TV guide playing on Encorea pay movie channelNOT regular TV so there would be no reason to air the "shortened version" seen on regular TV.
                                      Also the listing clearly said "extended version" to list it as such and then to show the theatrical version would be false advertising, and in all the years since, when they show the theatrical cut, they don't list it as the "Extended version".
                                      Lastly, A friend of mine who use to run a rare VHS rental store use to have it as a "European Cut" but his tape had long degraded as to be unwatchable, so, to date, I haven't found it and don't know what the difference is aside for it being slightly over 3 hrs long.
                                      D. v~~v

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                                        laurence01 — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 08:26 AM)

                                        Well if it is a difference between UK and US then I can't help you. I come from the UK therefore the UK / European cut is the only one I have ever seen.

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                                          koppmeier_kevin — 14 years ago(January 27, 2012 07:40 PM)

                                          I found this on wikipedia:
                                          According to Boorman, the film was originally three hours long; among scenes that were deleted from the finished film but featured in one of the promotional trailers was a sequence where Lancelot rescued Guenevere from a forest bandit.
                                          Not sure if this version was ever shown, but I would be interested in seeing it.

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