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DJ-Chojin — 13 years ago(January 05, 2013 08:30 AM)
just found this "According to Boorman, the film was originally three hours long; among scenes that were deleted from the finished film but featured in one of the promotional trailers was a sequence where Lancelot rescued Guenevere from a forest bandit." its here on its official fb page https://www.facebook.com/pages/Excalibur/105933682771316?nr#
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jh66 — 13 years ago(March 06, 2013 03:14 PM)
Link?
All this talk of 'extended' versions is either American fans suddenly seeing UK cuts (not as strict as US censors) or original Cannes festival releases before the theatrical edits?
I doubt the supposed 'love scenes' between Merlin and Morgana. -
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MIJACology — 12 years ago(August 05, 2013 12:39 AM)
For sure, but I think the point we're trying to get across is that the 3 hour version may in fact have existed just as one of the previous posters has claimed.
On Youtube there also might be scenes of Lancelot in the forest, scenes nowhere in any version of Excalibur, either rated PG or R.
Here, look at this trailer:
In this official trailer, you see Igrayne and Uther doing more foreplay than the R version featured. You also see Lancelot whacking a forest bandit. That scene is in no PG or R version. You also here Nicol Williamson's real undubbed voice as he channels the Dragon and attempts to double cross Morgana.
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jh66 — 12 years ago(August 07, 2013 09:49 PM)
Possibly, I have seen the trailer of course, and remember a charging Llancelot throwing an axe at a Cossack-looking warrior to save Guenevere.
But how come none of the cast or Boorman have mentioned the Merlin/Morgana or Uther/Igrayne sex scenes since? -
MIJACology — 12 years ago(August 07, 2013 11:11 PM)
Don't know jh66, but I am really thinking that the R and PG versions were "Americanized:, and the 3 hour version was some European version. Grounds for that is the scene of Uther and Igrayne preparing for foreplay that is far more graphic than anything shown in the R version. I think back in 1981, if a man and woman were shown getting ready to do what those two were clearly getting ready to do, the R rating wouldn't be sufficient. A movie like that would have been "NC 17" but NC 17 probably didn't even exist in 1981. So for the US market it is cut out entirely.
Merlin and Morgana. The old rumor was that Nicol Williamson and Helen Mirren simply didn't like each other. Also, Helen Mirren has always been involved in provacative stuff. There would be no reason to ask her about a simulated sex love scene with some ancient actor (that probably isn't that well know in the USA) when she has done far more controversial things (going topless, Caligula, etc).
The fact that all of this extra footage is presented in trailer form is probably proof that there was another version out there longer than the PG or R versions extant in the USA. You don't put something in a trailer unless it is actually in the movie. The R version is something like 2 hours and 20 minutes long. So a 3 hour version has just a liiiittle bit more left in to make it that much longer.
If you want to gossip, the real question is: Did Helen Mirren and Nicol Williamson ever make it? Being as the guy was so tall and she was always a freak from day one, plus the fact that if there was no sexual tension they should've never hated each other to begin with, I think the chances are pretty high that Nicol and Helen may have connected, once upon a time. -
richard-brisson — 12 years ago(August 07, 2013 09:16 PM)
sorry.but the scene of having sex between merlin and morgana does existit was on a stone altar.I remember it distinctly cause I brough my two boys (age 10 and 11)and thinking at the timeholy crapthis is pretty adult stuff for them.
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shinobiung — 12 years ago(August 19, 2013 04:33 PM)
Well there was a 3hr 7min version, I had it on VHS up to a few days ago, I remember I had to use a 4hour tape due to its length (most 3hr tapes them days didnt actually last 3hrs). Among the scenes was the merlin + Morgana love scene, also the scene where Morgana mates with Arthur was A LOT more explicit (ie she was riding him for some time), I have the 2hr 20min blu ray version, and alot of dialogue and scenes are not there. Yes the love scene between Lancelot and Guinever was also more explicit. . . all the other stuff etc . . I understand people say it was a lot of boring scenes, but if you want to watch a film as the makers originally wanted it.
http://www.imdb.com/board/20165551/?ref_=tt_cl_t3