What if Rambo hadnt escaped and went in front of the Judge?
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Matthew7819 — 9 years ago(September 23, 2016 09:26 AM)
You know just like he was supposed to do, John Rambo was supposed to get a shave and a haircut and go before the Judge in the morning to face the consequences of Vagrancy and other things, but escaped after he got freaked out by the Police and started a war with them.
Makes you wonder what would have happened to him if Rambo had a nicer Cop than Galt who didnt treat him like total crap and Rambo didnt escape, just submitted and got a shave and haircut and went before the Judge the next day, explained that he was a Homeless Drifter that served in Vietnam and was in town to see his friend who he was told had died, then blamed his circumstances on Teasle because he refused to let him get something to eat at that restaurant and he didnt want to take his crap.
Wouldnt the Judge have been an understanding guy and given Rambo a lighter fine and sentence and Rambo would have been out of jail in a few days or weeks? Maybe he would have called Trautman and been bailed out by him, after he arrived and told the police about his war record and past history, Teasle and Galt both apologize to Rambo for the incident and Rambo now cleaned up goes free and continues on his way.
I think that all of this would have happened if Rambo had not escaped, it was all Galts fault, if someone else had booked him and shaved him then Rambo might him not flipped out and taken off, none of the problems would have happened, the Judge was probably a nice guy but no nonsense, so they would demand an explanation and Rambo would certantly give them one. -
Matthew7819 — 9 years ago(September 24, 2016 09:29 AM)
Okay let me ask you this, Rambo was charged with Vagrancy, resisting arrest and carrying a concealed weapon, and was uncooperative with the police in the station, what kind of charges would he be facing from the judge for all of this? Not years in prison.
And if the judge found out about his war record he might cut him some slack, especially if Trautman was called in. -
Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 08:24 AM)
I've really no idea how sentencing would work to be honest
My feeling is that, yes, Galt was clearly an beep but if it wasn't him someone else would have come along sooner or later and pulled Rambo's trigger.
Once he crossed back into town and Teasle stopped him, that was him mentally gone. I don't think he'd have suddenly become all communicative in front of the judge, pulling the Trautman "card" - He couldn't / wouldn't even give them his name in the station remember, plus it's established later on he'd tried, and failed, to get in touch with Trautman.
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Matthew7819 — 9 years ago(September 25, 2016 08:47 PM)
I agree with what you said, Rambo did look resolute, someone else shared a similar thread to mine here by Tidewatcher:
http://www.imdb.com/board/10083944/board/nest/252176876
offers some good viewpoints and maybe the judge would have been corrupt too which was sad. -
Foot_of_Davros — 9 years ago(September 26, 2016 02:11 AM)
Oh yeah, in the bridge crossing scene itself he seems very resolute to me as well. It's after that, I meant, that he seems "mentally irregular" / unresponsive. If it hadn't been Galt, I reckon someone else would have come along soon enough to "push him" over the edge
Unless, of course, that "tough" small town judge saw the signs that what Rambo actually needed was some professional help before he embarked upon his own method of self-therapy.
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armhammer — 9 years ago(September 27, 2016 05:54 PM)
I'm still inclined to disagree with your assessment of his mental state at that time. His attitude of defiance/ resistance, not "unresponsiveness " is completely consistent with becoming suddenly resolute.
Sure, it's open to speculation that at some point someone else could have eventually triggered him, but in this scenario we had a 'perfect storm' of flash points, physical intimidation, aggression immediately upon the heels of emotional vulnerability. And who knows how much disrespect and abuse Rambo had already endured before arriving in the town of " Hope? " I mean isn't that the primary message of this film, how the Viet Nam vets were treated upon returning home ?
As far as that "judge, " he was probably another fat, soft, spoiled wannabe in the same clique as Teasle & Galt and it would have been a 'kangaroo court' for Rambo. -
riddick-11114 — 9 years ago(December 18, 2016 10:12 AM)
Teasle mentions it in the police station early on and its hard to miss, "As of right now your facing a 90 day jail sentence, and a $250.00 fine which it doesnt look like you can afford to pay." So basically Rambo would face 90 days in jail unless the judge was even harder on him, he would be unable to pay his fine so he would probably be kept to do work in jail and pay it off that way.
Could be only 90 days in jail but probably much longer than that, and Rambo was ignoring the police and their orders and instructions, he would probably ignore the judge and not cooperate with him at all either, unless he had a dinner and breakfast and was feeling better which i doubt, so the judge would really be a jerk.
What i want to know is what would have happened if Rambo had been taken down after he tried to escape? Like some cop pulled a gun on him and he wisely surrendered, the judge would really crack down on him, in Rambo 2 he was in a state or federal prison and Trautman did all he could for him, Rambo said in there at least he knew his place and where he stood, but thats another movie.