I agree. At the time it was good, but NOW, it stinks. A remake would be cool.
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bilgeboybob — 19 years ago(March 19, 2007 01:50 PM)
I assume, Mr Rowe, that you are referring to the initial poster and not to me?
I challenge anyone to go back and watch Abraham's "They have to stay" speech to Stanley and then still say this is bad!
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dont_b_so_BBC — 18 years ago(May 15, 2007 03:54 AM)
As far as the "fear factor" is concerned. I was never scared by it, even when I first saw it as a kid anyone who reads enough hard sci-fi will "V" quite soft (try Arthur Clarke's "Childhood's End", now that's scary)
But was it a good show, YES! Just re-watched it a couple of days ago and found that the "cheese factor" is surprisingly low for 1980's TV (just think 1980's sitcoms). The whole "first contact" sequence was slowly played out over half an hour with next-to-no-hysteria. which will never happen again in this MTV generation (no screaming/ shouting = no TV/ movie). -
shireknight — 18 years ago(May 19, 2007 02:54 PM)
"V" is one of the best Sci-fi productions of all time. I still remember the first time I saw it, It was during the 1984 Olympics and ITV (English TV Channel) put it directly up against the BBC's coverage of the games and It won hands down -If I remember correctly up until this time the Beebs Olympic games coverage had always been the rating's winner during The Olympics and ITV had never been able to beat it but this year was different.
In 1984 V was definitely the TV highlight of the year and it had a major effect on the British public from the Schoolyard right up to office gossip lol.
Here it was shown as one 5 part mini-series although in the US I believe they actually had it as it is known now a 2 part mini-movie (V) and a 3 part mini-movie (V -The final Battle)
Personally I still class V the mini-series as one of the finest productions of all time, It still evokes an emotional response in me whenever I watch it. The part where Abraham is reading his letter is just heart wrenching and the assault on the rebel base where Diana takes a staffing run at Julie from her shuttle, misses, turns and goes in for another run and Julie in a completely desperate act of defiance and knowing full well that she is committing suicide stands up, raises her gun and starts firing at her is about as powerful as movies get.
If you have never seen this 10 hour mini series then I really, really recommend you watch it at least once, as far as I'm concerned it's hardly dated at all after all this time.
The DVD is a proud part of my collection and It's a dream of mine that one day we will finally get a proper remastered version in full 5.1 surround sound.
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drew_atreides — 18 years ago(August 09, 2007 04:13 PM)
The original 2-part miniseries was fantastic. Yes, the FX are dated now, but the writing of the original series by Kenneth Johnson is top-notch.
The way he ties together the opening scene of the first episode with the final battle in the second episode was really quite powerful.
Yes "The Final Battle" got to be cheesy, but it still had it's moments (and Ironside rules!)
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roger.iversen — 18 years ago(December 26, 2007 09:00 AM)
If we're talking about the TV-series that followed the 5 TV-movies I would agree to it being really bad.
I saw it all when I was a 10 year old kid. What I noticed early in the TV-series was an EXTENSIVE reuse of footage from the films. It wasn't that annoying fact that made it bad (But it made it worse). It was the stories them self that sucked piece of human anatomy that consist of two cheeks, crack and a hole.
The movies on the other hand was outstanding. WOOT!!! :wub:
(The flight scenes does look really dated unfortunately)
V - Visitors was better than TFB, but TFB was still very good.
"Visitors" was told exemplary. Great pace and never a dull/unimportant moment.
When Kenneth Johnson was editing the first two movies to fit the 2 hour airtime slot he couldn't. It was to long and he couldn't cut it down any shorter. So a good friend of his at the tv-station (i believe it was) offered to do it for him.
When he coldn't do it either it was aired as it was. 15 minutes over the designated airing slot.
Abraham is a very important character in this. He sees what's going on and the scary similarities to Nazi rule during World War 2 (Just take a look at the Memorable quotes)
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stormlord-2 — 18 years ago(December 16, 2007 04:21 PM)
Not true. I reciently rewatched V and V The Final Battle. Sure the visitor costumes look a bit corney and it has a very 80's feel about it but the characters and story is still very watchable even today. Given the rise of reality tv trash in the last decade I will happily rewatch shows like V over them anyday. Besides it shown has a civilisation can go from a peacefull one to a fasist state very easily. Something America should be aware of.
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criddic2 — 17 years ago(December 05, 2008 05:29 AM)
"V" is a well-written dramatic sci-fi miniseries, and was even nominated for a Writers Guild Award for Best Long-form Television Writing. The makeup and score were, according to IMDB, nominated for Emmys.
At the time, as some have stated, the effects were top of the line for a TV production. Reviews were generally positive and viewers loved it. Marc Singer even appeared in the NYC Thanksgiving Parade one year with a V-float, if I remember correctly. That's how popular "V" was, for years. I can recall seeing the re-airings in the late-1980s. And a couple of times in more recent years, the sci-fi channel aired it as well.
The original minseries is also a precursor of sorts to "Independence Day," so much so that the 1996 film prompted comparisons from some critics at the time. This particularly due to the opening of the film, with the giant ships overhead.
Today, almost any special effects from the 1970s, 1980s or 1990s will seem paled in comparison to CGI effects used in modern films. Remarkable exceptions include "Superman: The Movie" (1978) and "Aliens" (1986). Since "V" was made for TV, the comparison would lead to an even greater gap in quality, but it holds up fairly well considering that.
The better way to view the technical aspects, and to appreciate how good they were, would be to watch some of the other special effects shows of the era. "Star Trek: The Next Generation" and "Battlestar Gallactica" both were aired around that time, from the late 1970s to the early 1990s. Before "X-Files" and "Buffy."
However old the show seems now, it still has merit as an entertaining epic adventure story. I think some of the acting is actually pretty good, and made stars out of Marc Singer, Jane Badler and Faye Grant. And it provides us with a pre-Freddy Robert Englund. -
mark_lucas — 17 years ago(December 09, 2008 04:27 PM)
Op Like several people on here, I watched this as a youngster too. Felt like dangerous viewing at the time, FX seemed amazing. Hook was, it kept viewers hanging on to the next episode, they never actually saw much.
watched the mini-series recently. One of the things I realised is the fact the entire thing only features around 25 minutes of actual alien footage. Same with action sequences and other stuff which captured my imagination. For a series revolving around "alien invasion", it manages to cram in more off-topic cornball & totally avoid the subject. 60's Series like U.f.o had more content. It's a waste of time, might as well be dynasty. As a kid, I must have been clinging on for the next glimpse of an alien.. probably why I never finished the series
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s-sweetheart — 17 years ago(December 22, 2008 02:51 PM)
People who think V is bad really need to try to extend their vocabularyexactly what is 'bad' about a series that STILL has people (including the critics) talking about it 25 years on?? I think V is fantasticthe story is great, the actors are spotty dog, the way it grips the imagination is second only to Star Wars IMO.
So what about the effectsI still love Harold Lloyd even though I can see through his act a mile offstop being such Scrooges!!!! And Merry Christmas to all IMDB-ers! -
mark_lucas — 17 years ago(January 05, 2009 10:10 PM)
" People who think V is bad really need to try to extend their vocabularyexactly what is 'bad' about a series that STILL has people (including the critics) talking about it 25 years on?? I think V is fantasticthe story is great, the actors are spotty dog, the way it grips the imagination is second only to Star Wars IMO.
So what about the effectsI still love Harold Lloyd even though I can see through his act a mile offstop being such Scrooges!!!! And Merry Christmas to all IMDB-ers "!
What lol? Whats wrong with the vocabularyarylyly on this thread? I've seen worse. How does vocab apply to subjective taste and wtf has Harold Lloyd or being tight with money got to do with it? (always prefered laurel & hardy, harold was a bit of an underdog.. but don't take it personally).
Christmas- whats that? -
treshon — 17 years ago(February 24, 2009 06:47 AM)
The OP must be talking about the weekly TV series which was a steaming pile of crap - although my brother and I just forced ourselves to watch it.
My wife, who had never seen or heard of it as a kid, and doesn't really care for Sci-Fi stuff, thought it was excellent. She couldn't believe how well done it was. Maybe because it IS a good series.
Great writing, the special effects for a TV show at the time were great. Kenneth Johnson also did The Incredible Hulk TV showso what you get is quality. -
mark_lucas — 16 years ago(June 17, 2009 06:16 PM)
The OP just didn't like it because it didn't have any crappers trying to be actors, cheesy CGI (ala Lucas), or a slamming soundtrack by Gsleezy or Snoop doggy sh*t or some other MTV fueled babbling BS.
Yes, this is really a mini-series for the more intelligent, appreciative audience of sc-fi hmmm the connoisseurs if you will.
Lol erm.. its cheesy American NBC crap