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    gbennett5 — 10 years ago(November 17, 2015 12:29 AM)

    In any case, it is only a fair movie, and a story that is very hard to
    swallow. Even in 1900 Europe, smart people (there were smart people
    then, too) would've clearly known this was a woman. And while we're on
    the subject of egos, Streisand made the mistake of putting herself in
    every single scene - we don't get a single scene of Avigdor with Irving,
    or Irving with her mother. Irving's character is so one-dimensional.
    There are also too many songs.
    Sorry, but it's easy to see why Singer detested this film. The first
    act unfolds beautifully, but the second half of the second act becomes
    a mess.

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      TheChamCham — 10 years ago(November 17, 2015 04:17 PM)

      To each his own. If you go to films, especially musicals, expecting total realism you are going to be disappointed. Entertainment should be enjoyed, not dissected.
      Rescue the damsel in distress, whip the bad guy, save the world.

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        gbennett5 — 10 years ago(November 18, 2015 07:14 AM)

        This isn't a standard musical, and you know it. Streisand aimed very
        much for realism and failed to make it convincing in many respects
        (Yentl isn't Hello Dolly! where every character bursts into songs and
        dances).

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          TheChamCham — 10 years ago(November 18, 2015 06:23 PM)

          I LOVE Hello Dolly !!!
          I always watch Yentl and Fiddler on the Roof during Chanukkah , and while there are difference there are also many similarities. Like a lot of people, I think Ms.Streisand's decision to not have any of the other characters singing (except for Amy Irving's humming during "Will Someone Ever Look at Me That Way") was a mistake. How do you cast Mandy Patinkin and not have him sing at least one song?
          And Amy Irving sang for Jessica Rabbit but not in this ??? It boggles the mind.
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            gbennett5 — 10 years ago(November 19, 2015 06:55 AM)

            Let me say this: the less you say, the better your chances of appearing
            intelligent.
            Yentl, for all it's many failings, at least has the distinction of having
            the title character sing either in her head, or to herself (a powerful
            choice, as we see how repressed the character is, and we get to HEAR
            what she's THINKING). Streisand was conveying a sense of reality, which
            is why she prefers to think of Yentl as "a film with music", rather than
            a musical. The fact that MP sings is so beside the point. To have
            Avigdor sing just because the actor playing him does, would've been
            ridiculous.
            Hello Dolly! and Yentl are two completely different films.
            Class dismissed.

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                TheChamCham — 10 years ago(November 20, 2015 04:23 PM)

                Two words: Ignore list.
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                  !!!deleted!!! (61689113) — 10 years ago(November 25, 2015 08:45 AM)

                  A-ha! Do you know (being a Christian, if a rather Judaeophilic one) I also watch
                  Yentl
                  each year, at Christmas! I think it's one of the Christmassiest movies ever made - something to do with orphaned kids going on a journey, I guess. Anyway, I always thought it was very droll that Babs not only sings everything in the movie, but hired Patinkin and Irving and didn't let them sing a note. However on my last viewing I realized there's a little scene where Hadass settles down to do some mending while Yentl and Avigdor talk, and Hadass is clearly humming a kind of Yiddish tune which then 'unconsciously' harmonizes(or descants?) with one of Yentl's interior monologue songs. It's very quietly done, and of course Irving herself may have been dubbed, but it's a beautiful little semi-moment.

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                    TheChamCham — 10 years ago(November 27, 2015 02:13 AM)

                    I love that scene. Amy did sing (or rather hum) for herself.
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                      !!!deleted!!! (61689113) — 10 years ago(November 27, 2015 10:21 AM)

                      Good to know! I knew she'd sung Jessica Rabbit's song (and done
                      Honeysuckle Rose
                      ), so I used to think her apparently not singing in
                      Yentl
                      was a kind of joke on The Babs' part. Her brief humming as Hadass is very ethereal.

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                        TheChamCham — 10 years ago(November 28, 2015 12:33 AM)

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