WHY does this movie get such a bad wrap?
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HonestRef7745 — 10 years ago(March 23, 2016 05:37 AM)
Temple of Doom is definitely the weakest of the four movies. Indy had the two most annoying sidekicks in any of his movies ( Scott and short round) In this movie I never felt Indy or the other two were in any kind of danger as they were never going to kill off short round. Whereas in Raiders and Last Crusade, Marrion and Connery were in genuine danger I felt.
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Robbmonster — 9 years ago(April 10, 2016 11:10 AM)
I've never been a huge fan of Temple of Doom, but as I grow older, I tend to enjoy it a bit more.
The problems I always had was I found the film to be too dark. A bit of darkness is fine, but I found it too much. There is a looooong sequence in the middle where the story just grinds completely to a halt while we watch the Thugee partake of their ritual.
Speaking of story, another problem I always had was the lack of much story. While The Last Crusad certainly has character development and plenty of cause and effect, action and consequence, Temple of Doom has very little of either.
What IS the story? Indy is tasked by the people of a poor Indian village to retrieve their sacred stone. He goes to a castle to search for them, then through a series of contrivances, finds himself in the middle of a nasty ritual. He breaks the spell, lots of action things happen, he gets the stone and returns them. That's about it.
Like I say, I appreciate it a bit more as I get older, but I would prefer Raiders or Last Crusade any time, mainly because they both have more story and character on offer.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(April 17, 2016 07:28 AM)
Very simple Neon, parents complained that Temple was too dark and scary for children (even though the franchise was never for children) and Spielberg gave in. Plus family friendly movies sell more tickets.
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king_cooler — 9 years ago(June 30, 2016 12:43 PM)
even though the franchise was never for children
Yeah, that's why they gave Indy a kid for a sidekick who went all three ninjas on the bad guys, and showed Indy trying to save someone who tried to kill him.
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Klein_Returns — 9 years ago(September 21, 2016 12:48 AM)
Yeah, that's why they gave Indy a kid for a sidekick who went all three ninjas on the bad guys, and showed Indy trying to save someone who tried to kill him.
Temple was a dumb, silly movie and an insult to Raiders.
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weejockxxx — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 06:31 AM)
The reason this film gets bad press can be summed up in two words: Kate Capshaw. She's a terrible actress. Her character spends ninety percent of the film screaming and one hundred percent over acting. Whatever possessed Spielberg to cast her? Oh yes, that's why. You can't imagine Meryl Streep, Jennifer Lawrence or even Karen Black or Alison Doody producing such a rubbish performance. I like the movie but it's ruined by her.
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(April 19, 2016 04:47 PM)
LOL, Alison Doody read her lines off a teleprompter, she gave the most bland, excruciatingly painful performance I have ever watched. Capshaw had her fair share of faults, she screamed almost as much as Kim Basinger in Batman, but she was nowhere near the level of failure of Alison Doody. Plus you cannot defend such painful dialogue like "giddy as a schoolboy" or "oh yeah we're going to the library, I have to arrange for it to stay open longer" (STFU) The only reason she was even in the movie to begin with is because she had like 2 lines in A View to a Kill and Spielberg was on a mission to cast every actor who had ever been in a James Bond film.
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weejockxxx — 9 years ago(April 20, 2016 02:20 AM)
You have got to be joking? I counted the screen time Capshaw was screaming, it was incredible., Either way it doesn't detract from the fact that Capshaw was a lousy actress.
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thylacine80 — 9 years ago(April 20, 2016 05:17 AM)
I counted the screen time Capshaw was screaming, it was incredible
Yepof course it was ! She is a comic relief playing a night club singer totally out of place in the adventure. That's exactly the point of her character, and it was far more interesting than Marion or Elsa.
Either way it doesn't detract from the fact that Capshaw was a lousy actress.
The fact that you didn't like the character of Willie doesn't make Capshaw a bad actress.
You should read my review on that character : http://www.imdb.com/board/10087469/board/post/tt0087469
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The_Ultimate_Hippo — 9 years ago(April 20, 2016 04:23 PM)
That's fine if you don't like Capshaw, I had my complaints about her, she was miles better than Alison Doody. I seriously think my top 5 worst performances of all time come out of Last Crusade:
- River Phoenix
- Alison Doody
- Julian Glover
- Sean Connery
- Denholm Elliot
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thylacine80 — 9 years ago(April 20, 2016 01:07 AM)
The reason this film gets bad press
It doesn't get a bad press anymore. More and more people like TOD and realise it's a far more interesting movie than the three others.
It has a real cult following and is not disliked anymore.
can be summed up in two words: Kate Capshaw. She's a terrible actress. Her character spends ninety percent of the film screaming and one hundred percent over acting.
If you're complaining about the character and her screalms, I don't see why you're concluding that Kate Capeshaw is a terrible actress.
She plays the part as written, and that's a proof that she is indeed a great actress.
Plus, her character was far more difficult to portray than Marion or Elsa. She had to be sexy, to show that she was unconfortable and she had to be funny too.
Punching guys like Marion or delivering wooden lines like Elsa is not "being a good actress".
Whatever possessed Spielberg to cast her? Oh yes, that's why.
False.
She was cast because of her talent and comedic skills, and Spielberg didn't even know her.
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buddyboy28 — 9 years ago(April 20, 2016 11:52 AM)
More and more people like TOD and realise it's a far more interesting movie than the three others
You can like the movie all you want but stick to facts.
Raiders is regarded by most as THE Indiana Jones movie.
Crystal Skull gets tons of flack, Last Crusade while very popular gets some, Temple Of Doom has it's haters but Raiders gets little criticism because it's mostly loved. The true masterpiece out of all four. -
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Trax-3 — 9 years ago(April 23, 2016 08:48 PM)
Everybody agrees ROTLA is the best Indy movie and is considered as a masterpiece.
Everybody? I've never liked it all that much and rewatching it recently after 15-20 years didn't change my opinion. Temple of Doom felt far more exiting and much funnier
(Willie is hilarious) after Raiders, and the story, while still problematic, feels far more "full" and less hollow and full of holes. It's a wild ride and even pulpier than Raiders. -
thylacine80 — 9 years ago(April 25, 2016 01:38 AM)
Everybody? I've never liked it all that much
Of course when I say "everybody", I mean "most people", because for some reasons many people just worship that movie.
I, for one, never was that much into it. Like I said in my opening post, it's great but it's just not as funny, fast and entertaining as TOD.
And I even feel like the meaning, message and poetry in TOD was stronger.