Which is the better franchise, this or FRIDAY THE 13th?
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precociousrabbit — 11 years ago(September 08, 2014 08:40 AM)
I think Nightmare ('84) was the stronger film but as the franchise wore on Nightmare became silly and in that regard Friday took the lead (up until Jason X). If Nightmare had kept to the tone of the first two films it would have been, arguably, one of the best horror franchises ever. Likewise, if Friday had stayed the tonal course after Part 4 the comparison would be even harder to dispute. For sequels, I have to give it to Jason Vorhees but for making a first impression, Freddy takes the lead.
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patrick_bateman_90029 — 11 years ago(September 13, 2014 04:00 AM)
Definitely the "Nightmare" franchise.
The "Friday the 13th" franchise is a fun way to kill a day because it's atmospheric (well, the first two were), fun and sleazy as hell and Jason makes a good antagonist.
The "Nightmare on Elm Street" franchise is a "horse of a different color" because, even with the lesser sequels, it's a franchise that puts heavy emphasis on the character development as much as it does the fantastical elements and visual effects, you always end up liking the characters and want to see them make it (unlike the "Friday" franchise where the majority of characters feel set up just to have you anticipate the kill), the kills are some of the most original, even thought provoking sequences in slasher cinema and, of course, the brilliance of an actor like Robert Englund playing a character like Freddy. -
mnguyen_9 — 10 years ago(August 11, 2015 06:23 PM)
Couldn't have said it any better! I definitely agree with you on this one! I recently made it a goal to watch all the classics from the 70s-90s, and am currently working through Halloween, Friday the 13th, and Nightmare on Elm Street. And I must say that Nightmare has left the best impression on me. Granted, I've only seen the first "Friday", and the first two "Halloweens", but even from watching the originals, I enjoyed "Nightmare" the most. I am currently on the fifth of the Nightmare movies, "Dream Child", and so far I've really enjoyed all of them. "Dream Warriors" and "Dream Master" were so fun to watch! The thing I love most about Nightmare on Elm Street is that the characters are so interesting and develop well in continuity over the series, and the story and premise is just so creative and interesting! Definitely my favorite of the three different franchises so far.
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cybopath — 11 years ago(October 26, 2014 08:10 PM)
I used to say at the drop of a hat Nightmare was the best over all series because Nightmare didn't seem to have an unwatchable movie and Freddy was in each one. Jason and Michael managed to skip a few of their own sequels. (Lazy buggers).
It all depends on how you judge an over all series. Nightmare on Elm Street and Halloween as individual films are in a whole other class from Friday the 13th BUT because Friday the 13th started off in mediocrity it had less integrity to loose when it went into more far fetched stuff so the later Jason movies are more enjoyable than the later Michael and Freddy films. -
Crafty78 — 11 years ago(February 16, 2015 04:49 PM)
A Nightmare On Elm Street is definitely the stronger franchise here.
I'm not saying that and being biased because this is the NOES board but if you compare the two orginal films then Nightmare is the most original and refreshing of the two, as Friday The 13th was basically a rip off of John Carpenter's Halloween.
They both have their good and bad to very bad sequels. Nightmare has the orginal and Part 3 - Dream Warriors which are both considered classics. Fri 13th has again the first film (if not totally orginal) and Part 4 - The Final Chapter.
I have always liked Freddy more as a Slasher character because he would always kill you in a different and original way and from Part 3 onwards he would use yor fears against you. Jason on the other hand would basically kill you in pretty much a straight forward way by machete, axe, strangeulation etc. -
carpediemalready — 10 years ago(April 18, 2015 07:30 AM)
I think this is a much better franchise! I think the dream element makes NoES much more original and creative, Freddy's back story, all of it it keeps me interested a lot more whereas Jason seems pretty boring by comparison. The idea of something that preys on you when you fall asleep and molested and killed children in life? That is much more terrifying to me. The nightmare scenes and special effects make NoES more visually exciting, and the scenes when Freddy is creeping after someone in the dark most of us have had an experience of being followed in the night by someone creepy like that.
Friday the 13th has a much more basic feel to it, and not as many layers. It's okay, but it doesn't interest me nearly as much as NoES. Friday is more on par with Sleepaway Camp in my mind. Halloween, which has a similar slow-walking slasher villain as Friday, is superior to Friday the 13th in my opinion.
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Zarathustras_Crown — 10 years ago(April 26, 2015 12:28 PM)
Apples and oranges to be honestboth these guys were people I grew up with (along with Michael Myers from the Halloween series), but they're treated in very distinct ways. Freddy is a much more "savvy" character, he tends to play with his victims almost in a cat and mouse style and has more of an overt "intent". As such there tends to be a little more showmanship in Freddy's stuff, it's almost a self-referential wink to an unseen audience. Jason (and Michael for that matter) is much more a simple forceI always thought of them as being almost more akin to an animal in a sense like a bear or shark. Look at Jason, he generally doesn't range much out of his own territory, and there feels like there's less maliciousness in his killing. Sure, a shark attack is horrific and brutal and gory and all, but you don't really "blame" the shark, it's just what they do. So it's much more a simple force of nature with Jason where Freddy feels more like an actual murderer with intent, you know he's aware of what he's doing where with Jason he almost feels like a massive, immensely strong child who may cause all this horror and such but he's just doing what he does.
So like I said, I can't really say I find either one "better" than the other, they're two really different approaches to the whole concept of killer. I will say that I was much more fond of Freddy earlier on in the series, Nightmare 1&2 in particular and (in whatever way it is him) New Nightmare. Friday the 13th though I generally stuck with it (with a stumble here and there such as in part 5) up to around part 7 because, let's be honest, there isn't any way for Jason to be making wise-cracks about the power glove and making pop culture jokes in the same way Freddy ended up doing. Love 'em both though.
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ThiefOfStars — 10 years ago(June 27, 2015 03:19 AM)
NOES by light years!
Even after the NOES movies stop being scary, you can still enjoy them as dark fantasy movies.
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ollyoxenfree1997 — 10 years ago(July 02, 2015 02:56 PM)
The original ANOES>>>Friday the 13th, I haven't seen all of the sequels to each but overall I find the concept of Freddie more interesting than Jason. Mrs Voorhees was a good character (especially when you go into it expecting Jason), but she's only in the first movie.
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cooldudeonice — 10 years ago(July 30, 2015 07:24 PM)
when i first watched the original i had seen the first friday 13th movie with mrs voorhees as the killer, i didnt see parts 2 and 3 until i had seen all the nightmares religiously so i guess il always have a bigger place in my heart for freddy then jason, i just prefer nightmares theme to the overall dull and depressing theme of friday 13th but i class the first three as classics in their own right and the third was my fave, it was great fun and had the best jason imo, four i can take it or leave it five i never waatched and part six i thought was pretty cool fun what with all the 80s nostalgia,the seventh movie i acc really liked and jason was a lot more brutal in that one as opposed to the zombie superhero he was in parts six, but tbh i am one of those guys who preferred human retarded jason as over zombie superhero jason, jason in manhatton is a love hate thing and i have yet to see jason goes to hell, jason x was terrible once he became a cyborg, it reminded me of that old corny cheesy van damme movie called cyborg, if i am watching a movie and my brain switches of and starts playing scenes from a crappy van damme flick then it has got to be bad, i guess the cyborg thing came into it too, jason being a cyborg reminded me that van damme was once in a movie called cyborg, the last time this happened was when i saw robocop 3, my brain switched of and next thing i know i am watching maximum risk, a whole pile of beep starring none other than the wonderful van damme! i saw that crappy bruce willis movie in the cinema with my old girlfriend, you know the one with all the robots and beep well next thing you know van damme is fighting with mickey rourke in the coloseum in rome and there is a tiger involved somehow, oh yeah and a baby in a basket and i am watching double team with denis rodman instead of bruce willis fighting robots in whatever crap that was called. although it gets pretty cheesy towards the end i have yet to have a van damme episode while i watch any of the nightmares, they are fun and whacky and never make me drift of, they always have my attention and there is some great humour in there too, the halloween movies too were also great fun, i just find teh fridays to be halloween clones but the first three are great i think they should have ended it there.