I can't believe how stupid some people are…
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gilbere71 — 16 years ago(August 13, 2009 04:34 PM)
This is probably the smartest thread on this board.
Its good to know everyone who posted here actually paid attention during the movie.
Daryl - "don't shoot me Jed, don't shoot"
Robert - "i'll do it"
That still cracks me up
The Gunslinger smiled. "On the way to the Dark Tower," he said, "anything is possible." -
tstallw1987 — 16 years ago(August 15, 2009 08:16 PM)
Yes, it's also worth considering that the movie was heavily slanted towards the high school kids perceptions and viewpoint of events. The movie does explain in snippets here and there some of the whys, but mostly it's just about how this certain group reacted in this "what if" scenario.
Probably my biggest beef with the movie is a sequence right when the kids get into the swing of being guerrillas that they show a bunch of attacks and playing heroic music. It seemed a bit out of place for the otherwise somber nature of the movie, and detracted a bit from the realism to me. Minor nit though. -
cleverfox — 15 years ago(June 11, 2010 06:13 PM)
That was one of my favorite scenes, too, for a couple of reasons.
- It shows how much "hardened" towards the whole thing Robert has become since the beginning of the aggression. His character was kinda soft in the beginning.
- C. Thomas Howell and Darren Dalton were on opposite social sides in "The Outsiders" as well.
Whatever doesn't kill me only makes me stronger. How strong are you?
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StoneGriffin — 16 years ago(August 29, 2009 11:33 PM)
I saw this in the movie theatres, and even though I was already IN the armed forces at the time, it still captured the sense of dread of the Cold War. (of course a lot of buddies in active service were kinda pissed that it looked like we (the US Military) (a) failed utterly at stopping a land invasion and (b) were basically MIA while kids were fighting the good fight for us. I think I was the only guy in my unit that saw past that and liked the movie! hahaha) Heck it was a fun "What If" scenario that bashed the Commies. I don't like the people today who trash talk "American Propaganda" when they weren't even old enough to remember the Cold War and how frightening it was. They're all looking at the film through the prism of current events, not appreciating the mind set of the time. It's easy to trash talk people who hated the Rooskies, but hell, I faced them when I was stationed in West Germany. I still remember how we felt when ANOTHER innocent East German DIED trying to sneak across the border or make a run across 'THE WALL'. It was atrocious and at the time we hated the Communists. It was a normal response to the brutality of the Iron Curtain's various regimes.
People just don't remember the Cold War and how we all felt during it. When the wall fell, it took me YEARS to overcome my engrained distrust and dislike of Russians, but I got over it. The same for anyone at the end of a "hot war" like World War 2 or Vietnam, or the "Cold War". It takes time, but we all eventually see our former foes as human beings. It's completely gone now (as it should be) and I smile when I see other solders former Vietnam vets visiting Hanoi or WW2 vets meeting Japanese or German Vets (all old men now) and toasting to their lost friends and comrades.
Red Dawn was a really COOL flick and fun action piece. Sure I could nitpick the military, tactical or plot hole problems, but the trash talking it gets from people nowadays is unfair.
Dr. Kila Marr was right. Kill the Crystalline Entity. -
rickb69 — 11 years ago(February 18, 2015 08:56 PM)
Your professor must have been Sam Kinison AKA Professor Terguson in Back to School talking about WWII and asking one of the girls about it, she looked like she was going to cry. Rodney Dangerfield AKA Thornton Melon said "Hey leave these kids alone, they were still in diapers and me I'm a lover not a fighter."
Professor Terguson said something to the effect "OK Mr. know it all what was the reason for Say it SAY IT
SAAY IT
Thornton Melon "Because Truman was too big of a pussy to do anything."
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StoneGriffin — 16 years ago(September 09, 2009 01:20 AM)
Ah, yes. "Your Country". Another foreigner (to us) and another America hater. No more words are needed. But you should openly disclose what you are BEFORE you write critiques lest people get fooled into thinking that you know what you are talking about..
Dr. Kila Marr was right. Kill the Crystalline Entity. -
FourDeuce — 16 years ago(September 12, 2009 03:15 PM)
"need I remind you of the chemical weapons used in Vietnam that left half a million babies deformed and another half a million people dead?"
Looks like you might be referring to Agent Orange. If you think that is a "chemical weapon", you don't understand what chemical weapons ARE. Swallowing anti-American propaganda is no way to actually LEARN the truth.
"My Lai massacre?"
That wasn't done by the United States. It was done by some soldiers who happened to be American. If you can't understand the difference you shouldn't be trying to discuss the subject. It's over your head.
"USS Vincenes shot down an airline killing all 290 people on board."
Your lack of comprehension just reveals that you swallow propaganda instead of learning the truth and thinking for yourself. That might be good enough for you if all you want to do is attack America, but you shouldn't be surprised when somebody calls you on your BS. -
R011DaveAAA — 16 years ago(October 04, 2009 10:37 AM)
You know that the US is just as brutal
A median range estimate of the people murdered by Communists in the twentieth century is about 92 million people. A good third of that was done or encouraged by the Soviet Union.
need I remind you of the chemical weapons used in Vietnam that left half a million babies deformed and another half a million people dead?
And a similar number of American soldiers affected as well. Compare the use of chemical defoliants, though, with the deliberate use of poison gas against civilians in Afghanistan.
What about Project Phoenix?
What about it? Enemy combatants are always legitimate targets in wartime.
My Lai massacre?
An acknowledged crime. Similar things were done as a matter of policy by the Soviets fighting partisans in Eastern Europe and Afghanistan. Indeed, they were done by the Soviet's allies in Vietnam on a very much larger scale. When the Communists do it, the perpetrators get promoted, not punished.
USS Vincenes shot down an airline killing all 290 people on board.
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FourDeuce — 16 years ago(September 12, 2009 03:09 PM)
"The US shared the same grey spectrum as the Soviet Union did, to think otherwise is to live in a dream world of Hollywood,"
They did? How many Americans were shot trying to escape the US? How many got caught in the barbed wire trying to sneak across the border escaping the US?