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Why Wasn't Bibi Besch Not In ST 3?

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    monstermayhem32 — 10 years ago(December 02, 2015 09:00 PM)

    Carols absence is explained in the novelization that starfleet was covering up the events of Genesis and declined to survey the Genesis planet instead visiting the families of those killed in regula one .

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      Blue Wave — 2 years ago(April 14, 2023 04:46 AM)

      That is true. However it would have been nice if that had been included in the film is the point of the OP.

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        /.​ — 2 years ago(April 14, 2023 04:49 AM)

        nah, it wouldn't
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          Humphrey_Fish — 10 years ago(December 07, 2015 06:48 AM)

          Money.
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            bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(April 23, 2016 03:50 PM)

            Probably the studio felt that Bibi's
            presence

            • even in that brief Genesis "documentary" - would only serve to emphasise the actress's
              absence
              from
              Search for Spock.
              Having Kirk overdub Carole's original narration was a way of telling audiences that the film and the space situation has moved beyond Bibi, although not (yet) beyond David and Saavik. Why emphasise an important character's absence from a sequel by actually showing her, no matter how briefly (so the studio may have reasoned)?
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                Fluke_Skywalker — 9 years ago(May 08, 2016 05:54 AM)

                Nice info, Doctor_Omega. Thanks for that.
                I can understand leaving her out of
                III
                , but I really wish they had found a place for her going forward. Certainly not in
                STIV
                , unless she were there at the end to support Kirk and Co. in their trial at the end. But in
                STV
                or certainly
                VI
                . We never got any closure there with she and Kirk and it's always bugged me.

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                  DingoeOz — 9 years ago(June 11, 2016 06:42 PM)

                  There was a great scene in DC's mirror universe saga comic, set right after TSFS, where Kirk returns to Regula and informs Carol about David's death. She promptly slaps him. Later the have a funeral for David. I wish they would have included a scene like this in IV.

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                    ManuelManipulation — 9 years ago(June 16, 2016 02:43 AM)

                    It was very odd that not even the character's name was mentioned in the movie.

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                        TheSolarSailor — 9 years ago(August 12, 2016 06:30 AM)

                        It was very odd that not even the character's name was mentioned in the movie.
                        She is mentionedwhen when Kirk does the Genesis Device summary, he says, "as developed by Doctors Carol and David Marcus".
                        It was obviously a money issue, to avoid having to pay Bibi anything.


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                          monstermayhem32 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 10:09 PM)

                          I do wish the film would have mentioned or included the scene from the novelization thst explains the character absence as star fleet covering up the events of the Genesis planet and carol instead decided to pay visits to the scientists killed by khan.

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                            TheSolarSailor — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 02:29 AM)

                            Just remember, the novels are based on the script. The authors always included more character moments and ideas that were never conceived in the script. It was natural for the author to continue Carol's story even though money issues didn't allow for her character to return in the film.


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                              Blue Wave — 3 years ago(January 10, 2023 05:42 AM)

                              I don't know why those alterations were made. I agree she was important to the Genesis plotline.

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                                Wildman-Wizard — 3 years ago(January 10, 2023 05:45 AM)

                                Money. Thats why they wouldnt give kirsty ally more even though the cast, including besch, made paramount a fortune with that film.

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                                  pglynn — 3 years ago(January 14, 2023 11:31 AM)

                                  Maybe she wasn't available

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                                    LorqVonRay1999 — 3 years ago(January 15, 2023 03:14 AM)

                                    Money, I'm sure. Too bad because I liked her II and having Kirk all of a sudden already on the Genesis proposal like that made no sense at all.

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                                      Randhi Malloo — 2 years ago(April 14, 2023 07:29 AM)

                                      Bidi Besch when she was young was very pumpable, hana

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