Why Wasn't Bibi Besch Not In ST 3?
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AdmiralTugBenson — 10 years ago(August 10, 2015 11:14 AM)
I've always wondered how she dealt with David's death. It was presumably a very difficult loss, as they were shown to be very close. And while you can't really rationally blame Kirk, it would be pretty easy for her to point the finger at him. She had always tried to keep David close to her, away from Kirk, so he wouldn't run off with Starfleet. We're only left to see how it affected Kirk though. But seeing as how he barely knew David it probably wasn't nearly the loss that it was for her. I can't believe she wouldn't have been pissed at him at least for a little while though, because she laid it out to Kirk that she was afraid of David meeting him and leaving the nest to go off with Starfleet. Which is exactly what happened, and he died.
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monstermayhem32 — 10 years ago(December 02, 2015 09:00 PM)
Carols absence is explained in the novelization that starfleet was covering up the events of Genesis and declined to survey the Genesis planet instead visiting the families of those killed in regula one .
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bastasch8647 — 9 years ago(April 23, 2016 03:50 PM)
Probably the studio felt that Bibi's
presence- even in that brief Genesis "documentary" - would only serve to emphasise the actress's
absence
from
Search for Spock.
Having Kirk overdub Carole's original narration was a way of telling audiences that the film and the space situation has moved beyond Bibi, although not (yet) beyond David and Saavik. Why emphasise an important character's absence from a sequel by actually showing her, no matter how briefly (so the studio may have reasoned)?
- even in that brief Genesis "documentary" - would only serve to emphasise the actress's
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Fluke_Skywalker — 9 years ago(May 08, 2016 05:54 AM)
Nice info, Doctor_Omega. Thanks for that.
I can understand leaving her out of
III
, but I really wish they had found a place for her going forward. Certainly not in
STIV
, unless she were there at the end to support Kirk and Co. in their trial at the end. But in
STV
or certainly
VI
. We never got any closure there with she and Kirk and it's always bugged me.A journey into the realm of the obscure:
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DingoeOz — 9 years ago(June 11, 2016 06:42 PM)
There was a great scene in DC's mirror universe saga comic, set right after TSFS, where Kirk returns to Regula and informs Carol about David's death. She promptly slaps him. Later the have a funeral for David. I wish they would have included a scene like this in IV.
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TheSolarSailor — 9 years ago(August 12, 2016 06:30 AM)
It was very odd that not even the character's name was mentioned in the movie.
She is mentionedwhen when Kirk does the Genesis Device summary, he says, "as developed by Doctors Carol and David Marcus".
It was obviously a money issue, to avoid having to pay Bibi anything.
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monstermayhem32 — 9 years ago(October 06, 2016 10:09 PM)
I do wish the film would have mentioned or included the scene from the novelization thst explains the character absence as star fleet covering up the events of the Genesis planet and carol instead decided to pay visits to the scientists killed by khan.
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TheSolarSailor — 9 years ago(October 07, 2016 02:29 AM)
Just remember, the novels are based on the script. The authors always included more character moments and ideas that were never conceived in the script. It was natural for the author to continue Carol's story even though money issues didn't allow for her character to return in the film.
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