Does anyone believe hamas can win?
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soapbox original gangster — 2 years ago(November 16, 2023 06:58 PM)
yes i do. you havent defined "win" so there's several layers how hamas can "win" this: diplomatic, militarily, economic, public opinion.
isareli intel totally failed to predict this, so i doubt it will be able to identify and target even a samll fraction of hamas "leadership." scare quotes important because Hamas is an asymmetrical and highly decentralized organization: it doesnt have a mailing address or a vistor's center; so rooting out this level is impossible.
second, i bet $100 Euro that Hamas commanders put out the word that from the start of the war that all members of Hamas will operate independently. how does Israel deter this? it cant unless it occupies every inch of gaza and rounds up every Gazan/resident and verifies who they are. not gonna happen.
and already in europe the masses are getting tired of the daily news about this war; same in the uS.
israeli military is stretched way, way too thin and the military industrial base is not as vaunted as people assume; so time is on hamas's side, especially if Hezbollah jumps in or if these Houthi clowns get involved.
i support israel but i dont buy into the propaganda machine-worldview of the battlefield reality -
Uncreative — 2 years ago(November 17, 2023 03:25 AM)
I thought the general consensus was that Hamas did the attack to screw up Israel's relations with the other countries in the middle east that were starting to get too normal. If that's the case they could get completely wiped out and still win.