Some thoughts on Lilith's NHS thread
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Politics
/. — 2 years ago(November 16, 2023 09:48 AM)
I'm a doctor irl, sweetie. I'm also Oxford educated and ex-SBS, so you should trust what I say here and be very careful in how you to reply to me, otherwise I will jump in a kayak and I will find you.
What Dazed said here is correct:
https://www.filmboards.com/board/p/21678626/permalink/#p21678626
The baby had a terminal disease and there was no chance of survival whatsoever. The pain of her existence was considered to be more than she could or should bear and that it should not be prolonged needlessly. The judges ruled in favour of the doctors, who had applied ethical, medical expertise to their decision making, rather than the (completely understandable) emotional "rationalising" of the family.
In this case, the decision was the correct one, as agreed virtually unanimously amongst all those in possession of the facts. However, that's today and that's this decision. Oftentimes, we see poor decision making, where the cost of treatment becomes a determining factor. That's the problem with "free at the point of service" medical care. The value of a person's life is weighed against budgets, but also how much of a precedent it may set for future cases, where a few million pounds today on one baby might mean billions of pounds tomorrow for a gaggle of 80 year olds.
The NHS is cheap, dirty, and incompetent. It means diagnoses with one eye on cost saving, it means treatment with one eye on the balance sheet, it means a huge government department is required to manage it, which eats up billions that could be used to treat people to a higher standard. It's not the answer. It's healthcare with bureaucracy slap bang in the middle of it, so it's wasteful and incompetent.
It's not free, either. Nothing is free. It means that my doctor salary and my pension from my many years rowing into battle with a knife between my teeth is reduced by around 12% by National Insurance. And that's on top of paying circa 35% total income tax (it's more complicated than that, but for ease of understanding, let's simplify things and not worry about tax brackets etc. The values provided are my averages). Additionally, I pay Council Tax - a local tax which is linked to the size and location of your property - of circa £2.5k per year. If my mansion wasn't in the wilderness it would be far more. Some of this is used for the police, allegedly.
The UK is one of the most over taxed countries on earth yet it's still creaking at the seams and on the verge of collapse. Why? Because we spend heavily on absolute mongos like Fugazi and Millard, and people who buy one-way tickets on dinghies, who don't contribute to the economy, don't exercise properly, don't eat properly, and don't think properly, so they protest and riot and use up valuable resources that our emergency services could've used elsewhere. Ironically, they are usually the ones demanding free ****.
At least in the US you guys have guns so you can shoot yourselves if it all gets too depressing. All we have is Filmboards and its miniscule audience, consisting mostly of lazy, ill-educated communists with no life experience and a **** ton of grievances they appropriated to delude themselves into thinking their circumstances aren't of their own making.- Dane
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/. — 2 years ago(November 16, 2023 11:35 AM)
Yes, I'm sure Dane knows that, but he said it's the average. I'm guessing he's calculated that once his earnings enter the higher tax bracket he's paying 45%. He must earn a significant amount over that which means his lower rate taxes and higher rate taxes combine to leave him paying out 35% of his earnings for total mongos like you to eat fried foods three times a day and take selfies in the shower.
The ****ing state of you, sweetie.
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