Who do you find most unlikeable?
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RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 16, 2023 09:53 PM)
Pulaski could have been strong-charactered as a person but she was far from being a bitch. And come on, what human would not react like she did to android? That's not hatred. Hatred is thinking you're superior to someone else (and while Gates/Beverly wasn't so direct about it; she's was a do-gooder arrogant smug liberal) and treating them, whether directly and hostilly, as did Beverly, or in a slimy way, like ****. Everyone would have a hard time accepting an android at first. She overcame it and she respected and loved Data down the line. Even in the beginning she was treating Data with respect, even if she had a few preconceptions. Again, not unrealistic. She's far from hateful. That's just how it is. I didn't find Hobson's character unlikable.
She's strong charactered on the job. And friendly when in informal company. Beverly is just arrogant and stuck up period. -
RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 16, 2023 06:37 PM)
Most of Picard's crew to be honest.
With the exception of Geordi, Worf, Wesley, Tanya Yar, Ro, Guinan.
Deanna Troi is just a smug bitch who thinks she's better. But it's just in her
Friends
-watching
Seinfeld
-hating The WB/CBS/Tribune-loving UPN-hating bloodline to be like that. And UPN was closer to Warner Bros. than The WB. The Crusher fam is just self-righteous in every
Friends
-watching
Seinfeld
-hating The WB/CBS/Tribune-loving UPN-hating way too.
Riker is a typical
Friends
-watching
Seinfeld
-hating The WB/CBS/Tribune-loving UPN-hating Yankee asshole too. He acts like he's morally superior
I was watching "The Chase" and Beverly did something that really made me wanna punch and smack her. Picard was feeling horrible about Gailen, and she just rubs it in him, "And yet you abandoned him." She's lucky it was Picard and not me. I wouldn't have been so nice about her doing that to me. Plus it does only serve to show that Gates McFadden is that
Friends
-watching
Seinfeld
-hating The WB/CBS/Tribune-loving UPN-hating type in real life. At a ComicCon she insulted autistic people. I don't believe the cast of this show was as happy as people make it out to be. I believe
DS9
and
Voyager
were far happy.
Star Trek 66
doesn't count cause they were happy but they were all, minus Spock and Ursula (their actors, I forgot who played Ursula, I know Leonard Nimoy was Spock), united for a smug cause. And
Enterprise
, the show that should have been on CBS and The WB the most, was the worst one period. -
RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 16, 2023 06:41 PM)
Mind you, the only thing that keeps this classic show from being a liberal (and unpopular) The WB/CBS/Tribune version of the 60s show is the fact that the show was black-run, as was their sequels, with the last one's finale in 2001. The UPN/Warner Bros./WB era. And I mean WB as in my network I'd make, not The WB, starting with a "The," which was not Warner Bros.ish and was some white attempt to remake WB in their own image for whatever reason.
But Picard is redeemed as a good guy because of the Borg. That brought out his ghetto side. Too bad, he went back to pre-"BOBW" Picard in
Insurrection
. At that point he didn't even have culture anymore. Even him in season 1 had style, even if he was standoffish. He just became like Janeway, but even worse and more unlikable. At that point those movies could have been taken out of the TV show
Andromeda
. An episode of
Voyager
(and any of the big hit UPN [real Warner Bros. network] shows like
The Sentinel
and
Malcolm & Eddie
) stomped that show (and by default many of the forgotten shows on The WB, even though that lame mass-produced crap was syndicated and ended up usually being on stations of The WB) and the last two movies in the ratings. No one saw that crap or
Nemisis
or that lame forgotten show or any of the shows on The WB (except for a few). As for Data, the fact that he's an android is what keeps him from portraying his human self (cause Brent Spiner is the same ****stain like the rest of I mentioned). Data is the only time I can stand to see his face. But Lore is a little
Friends
-watching
Seinfeld
-hating The WB/Tribune/CBS-loving ****stain. He was perfect as leader of the renegade hateful Borg. Not even the regular Borg gets this arrogant (they were above petty emotion). I would not be surprised if Patrick couldn't stand being next to Brent. He's such an entitled Yankee little ****stain too.
In real life, had it not been for the stylish factors that made this show good, I'd rather put up with Kirk's crew than Picard's. Because Picard believes in mental hospitals and sterilization of dissenting thinkers, the types people use the slur "crazy" for, and all that crap. Kirk and his crew could be bigots who love
Friends
but at least they don't believe in sterilization. That started with
TNG
, sad to say.
The original 60s show should have been on lame CBS, and it was stupid WPIX that overpromoted it post-it's original run (1966 - 1969) to the point that it was being showed down people's throats. No one loved the 60s show. It was lame then and it's lame now. WPIX was probably the lowest rated station in America, maybe even moreso than WCBS. -
RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 16, 2023 06:48 PM)
That being said I don't blame Patrick Stewart for that one. While I can't say he's necessarily likable in real life, I really think he was proud of his show and those last 2 movies were for the paycheck.
Marina Sirtis is really cool and unlike Troi in real life. And at least on the show, the fact that in many of the episodes she seems to be acting more like herself than Troi makes her watchable. Gates has no redeeming quality whatsoever. I'm glad they kicked her off in season 2. Too bad it couldn't stay that way for the rest of the run. Wil Wheaton is cool. That father of his, on the show, looked like an asshole too. -
— 2 years ago(May 16, 2023 09:27 PM)Speaking (typing, actually) of
Gates McFadden
my brother said it looks like they got her from OFF of THE STREET as far as her ACTING goes.
“Call a SPADE, a SPADE; and a TRANNY, a TRANNY, or an IT!!!”.
"THAT'S SOME BAD
SHIT
,
HARRY
!". -
RobofNJ — 2 years ago(May 16, 2023 10:23 PM)
Because he's a humongous codeless The WB-loving (unpopular network at that, compared to UPN, which was way more popular in all 11 yeares)
Xena
-loving asshole, and because he insulted me first. He hates autistics (and I doubt he's trolling) and tomboys and broish gals (the last two being one of the bros). Donna Tella is another one - a bitch who talks too much.
They love
Friends
.
Codeless people are evil. And arrogant.