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Was Shaw or was he not the guy who put the regiment together, trained it, and fought for the right of the men to go into

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    Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Glory


    Zanza8 — 13 years ago(June 12, 2012 03:55 PM)

    Was Shaw or was he not the guy who put the regiment together, trained it, and fought for the right of the men to go into combat to do their part? Just how would you make the movie without Shaw?
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      A_Fistful_of_Pennies — 13 years ago(November 22, 2012 04:34 AM)

      Not only is he way off on Glory, he completely missed the point of American History X. He doesn't change because "black people are funny", he changes because he realizes many of the neo-nazis don't actually believe in anything and will sacrifice their beliefs for personal gainoh and the black man SAVES HIS LIFE. It may sound simplistic but their relationship is so much more well-built than just the simple comedic banter, yes it is there but there's so much more.
      If Glory is on this list for that reason, why not put "To Kill a Mockingbird" on there? There are countless movies where you can read into it as racist for having a white main character helping out other races, and in some cases it is unintentionally racist. Glory is not such a case. Actually this shows how Shaw and the soldiers learn from each other, and grow together. It isn't a white man saving a bunch of poor black people, it shows blacks being heroic and courageous when simply given an equal opportunity. It doesn't oversimplify things by making them purposely over-righteous either. It shows them as fleshed out characters. Glory is just about the least racist movie I can think of.

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            csue-palmer — 12 years ago(August 27, 2013 04:05 PM)

            What you're doing here is ARGUING with real historyexactly as it was. Now, you can argue with how things were back then but you cannot ask a film-maker to make a PC movie and leave out all the facts of what really went on. omg

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              iresheen — 12 years ago(September 06, 2013 03:06 PM)

              A bit of a crap article but then most are on cracked, wouldn't pay much attention to it to be honest.

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                Catman_Scrothers — 10 years ago(March 14, 2016 07:41 AM)

                This is true, just read the whole article. It really depends on the writer whether or not the content will be good, sometimes they do great satire/comedy, but there have been some cracked articles which are really deep and very well done, like the one about the college student who went on the deep web and found a huge pedo site with thousands of members and the article was called "5 things I learned on the deep web" or something, but great article very serious/disturbing.
                This article however, wow.seems like this guy missed the point of Glory, The Toy, and American History X all together. I mean does he think Richard Pryor of all people doesn't get the movie and the joke? Or that it was b/c of a "nice black guy" that changed Norton in AHX? No it was the fact that his Neo-Nazi's were all hypocrites and sold him and their beliefs out for money, it's all BS, not b/c a black guy was nice to him.

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                  Zuider_Zee — 11 years ago(May 10, 2014 12:33 PM)

                  I think you should keep in mind that cracked.com is a comedy/humor/satire website. It is nothing more than an electronic version of Cracked Magazine.

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