So let me get this straight…
-
bh_tafe3 — 11 years ago(January 08, 2015 12:30 PM)
Probably because he thought whoever drank from the cup would live forever (he would not have known that the power couldn't cross the seal) and didn't want his enemy Indy to receive that gift. No doubt at all he wasn't letting Henry get at it either. He shot the father to motivate Indy to go inside and then was going to let him die. And notice there were mercenaries at the end and no Nazis? He wanted the grail for himself and no one else. Pretty simple.
As for Elsa, there was nothing random about her picking up the grail, she was greedy, thought she had found the greatest prize in all creation and wanted to take it out of the cave, which they were told they couldn't. Again, nothing random, just a greedy person acting dumbly.
"What every columnist needs to do is shut the f-ck up!" -
Kruleworld — 11 years ago(January 09, 2015 09:11 PM)
just a greedy person acting dumbly.
people in movies don't follow the advice they are given.
Don't feed it after midnight
don't go into the woods
don't get off the path
Gimli: Youll find more cheer in a graveyard. -
Dark_Phoenix89 — 11 years ago(January 22, 2015 03:44 PM)
Probably because he thought whoever drank from the cup would live forever (he would not have known that the power couldn't cross the seal) and didn't want his enemy Indy to receive that gift. No doubt at all he wasn't letting Henry get at it either. He shot the father to motivate Indy to go inside and then was going to let him die. And notice there were mercenaries at the end and no Nazis? He wanted the grail for himself and no one else. Pretty simple.
As for Elsa, there was nothing random about her picking up the grail, she was greedy, thought she had found the greatest prize in all creation and wanted to take it out of the cave, which they were told they couldn't. Again, nothing random, just a greedy person acting dumbly.
^^ Second this; Couldn't have summed it up better
"Speak of the Devil, and He shall appear." -
mam13143 — 11 years ago(January 22, 2015 02:31 PM)
I don't think he would have let Indy drink first and live forever. But as I watched it again she purposely picked poorly because she tells Indy after Donovan dies that it wouldn't be made of gold. Indy's selection of a cup hand made was a wise selection.
Interestingly, Donovan says at the beginning to Indy that there are two markers to locate the Grail, one was the tablet and the other was with the last knight. They seem to forget that point entirely. -
Kruleworld — 10 years ago(October 08, 2015 12:49 AM)
Interestingly, Donovan says at the beginning to Indy that there are two markers to locate the Grail, one was the tablet and the other was with the last knight. They seem to forget that point entirely.
Donovan already had the tablet, and they found the knight under the library.
"He's dusted, busted and disgusted, but he's ok" -
Karl Aksel — 10 years ago(August 07, 2015 04:48 AM)
Why would Donovan risk giving his arch nemesis (Jones) eternal life??
What if Indy did try the holy water out of the correct grail? He'd live forever! Donovan would be toast.
How would that make Donovan toast? It's not like Indy would then have super powers or anything. The eternal life implied by the grail was never more than an anti-agapic: supposedly "the gift of youth" (as Donovan describes it at one point), and never ageing. This doesn't mean that you can't be killed. And indeed, Donovan knows that one sip won't suffice: the one knight who made it out of the desert died of extreme old age, suggesting he had drunk from the cup but he did die. -
dmoney32 — 10 years ago(July 06, 2015 12:16 PM)
First, lets stop saying "live forever". You do not live forever after taking a sip from the cup. In order to really keep living, you have to actually stay in the temple and continually drink from the cup, like the knight did.
And yes I agree, it was very stupid of Donovan to take the first sip himself. He should've had Indy take a sip first and see what happens, or he could've told Elsa to drink from it first. -
TwoMushrooms — 10 years ago(September 11, 2015 04:39 AM)
A) See, nobody at that point, actually knew that the grails longevity effect wears off if you exit the temple. They believed drinking from the grail grants immortality, period. As such, Donovan did not want Indy to receive this gift.
B) As he saw the cup Elsa had chosen, Don instantly believed it to be the right one, because she was the expert, and because that cup was the most glorious and magnificent one. He didn't doubt at all he had the right one.
I'm having trouble with a patient of mine; he's a teenage drug addict who's being molested. By me. -
degree7 — 10 years ago(September 12, 2015 09:55 PM)
Yeah, Donovan really wasn't that intelligent. He didn't even bother to look up what the grail looked like before he went after it. And he places his life entirely in the trust of Elsa. Seriously, there was only a 1/50 chance he would choose the right grail, and he just has her pick one willy nilly.
However, that said, there is at least one theory that could explain his rash want to throw his life away. Not only was he tempted by the promise of eternal life, but it almost seemed like he was being seduced by the supernatural aura of the golden, jewel-embedded goblet. Look at his face when he gazes on it and says "it's more beautiful than I could ever have imagined." It's as if he was being hypnotized into drinking from it, and was compelled into choosing poorly by his greed and vanity. After all, Satan thrives on deception and false promises.
~ I'm a 21st century man and I don't wanna be here. -
samhmd-7489 — 10 years ago(October 12, 2015 06:16 PM)
He was so caught up in what he thought was his ultimate victory that he let his pride and greed get the better of him.
Arrogant people thinking they can benefit from toying with Holy Artifacts is a recurring theme in this series. Belloq did the same thing when he thought he'd be able to fool the Ark into thinking he was a Jewish Holy Man reciting the Jewish Prayer to activate the Ark.