South Africans and Racism
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Toby_gibson002 — 17 years ago(June 11, 2008 12:04 AM)
I agree that a lot of if not most American movies are completely dumbed down and stupid. Occasionally though a gem comes up.
But people in general tend to be pretty stupid no matter where they are from, and stupid people demand stupid movies.
To the first poster on this thread- you complained about how this director portrayed South Africans but you failed to give him credit for portraying the CIA as Heroin traffickers in the first one. (Albeit he made the distinction of referring to the bad guys as "mercenaries".) Really sequels should be done away with (Road Warrior being one exception- but Thunderdome was complete rubbish). This movie pretty much sucked and South Africa should rest easy knowing they weren't cast in a dismal light in a movie that anyone with half a brain could take seriously. -
Dan2108 — 17 years ago(June 16, 2008 10:41 AM)
Honest question for you, StuSenrab, since you're from South Africa. I assume the movie was not released there in 1989. Did it hit movie theaters after 1994? Were official VHS tapes stopped from entering the country as well? If so, were bootlegs distributed under the radar before or after 1994?
I ask because I grew up in the 80's in a developing country with a military government that heavily censored movies, TV, books, etc. Bootlegs were the norm for every "cultural product" that the regime viewed as a threat. -
sepsism — 17 years ago(June 30, 2008 08:05 PM)
This thread is great! The Afrikanners fight back!
I don't think this film is in any way implying that
all
South African whites are racist. Clearly there are plenty of non-Dutch whites in SA right
But seriously, it's just a movie dude. They are just fictional bad guy "characters" who happen to be South African. The hot white chick they were with wasn't an evil racist and she was South African?
Let me guess, after watching
Once Were Warriors
you thought all Kiwis were violent drunks who beat their wives?
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ShadySovereign — 17 years ago(July 22, 2008 01:57 PM)
I think Arabs and Iranian people have it worse in Hollywood movies, because most Middle-Eastern people in Hollywood movies are portrayed as evil racist people.
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CptHowdy87 — 17 years ago(September 19, 2008 06:42 PM)
Wow StuSenrab you came in here talking alot of racist propaganda and bull s h i t and when someone comes along and tells you you're talking utter crap you shut up right away and your following responses were short one liners not even dignifying any of the remarks made toward you. LMAO. Love it when imdb trolls get totally owned and walk away with their tail between their legs!, I Love it, it's.BEAUTIFUL!!!
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StuSenrab — 17 years ago(October 17, 2008 11:11 AM)
Well I am not ashamed of starting this topic. It will take more than a dumb remark to get my tail between my legs. If I may ask you CaptainHowdy187, what nationality and ethnicity are you?
And what is your perception of South Africa? Wait dont tell meyou think we all live in huts; instead of having cats and dogs for pets, each household has a family lion or elephantPlease dont Druk your bek in about things you dont understand.
To add to sepsisms reply, Im not afrikaaner.
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CptHowdy87 — 17 years ago(November 19, 2008 07:15 AM)
Well I am not ashamed of starting this topic. It will take more than a dumb remark to get my tail between my legs.
If I may ask you CaptainHowdy187, what nationality and ethnicity are you?
And what is your perception of South Africa? Wait dont tell meyou think we all live in huts; instead of having cats and dogs for pets, each household has a family lion or elephantPlease dont Druk your bek in about things you dont understand.
I'll answer that the moment you dignify the people in this thread with an answer yourself!, I hate it how people talk s h i t then when people call them up on it they go in hiding. So you return to the topic to call me out instead of justifying the horse s h i t remarks people called you up on? why do you bother making an arguement if you're not prepared to hear much less answer the other side of it? -
hypestyle — 17 years ago(November 16, 2008 04:08 PM)
south africa has yet to get over its racist history.. it took until 1990 to get mandela out of prison, until 1994 to give blacks the vote.. scream about hollywood all you want.. real life was worse..
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Snoogan — 17 years ago(November 27, 2008 02:53 PM)
who cares?
Firstly -> This movie is about twenty years old.
Secondly -> Its made in Hollywood, where the usual enemies are Germans, Russians, Middle Eastern people, Asians, South AmericansEven English people are used far more often as villains.
This is the first movie not directly related to South African history that has used Afrikaan villains that I have heard of.So what the beep is the big deal?
Jesus. Go cry a beep riverIts not as if they made the whole Apartheid thing up. You treat any group of people like beep based on race/religion/ethnicity and they'll put you in a movie somewhereHollywood is always racked for original ideas.
Thirdly -> If you know anything about hollywood you can pretty much see exactly why they chose South AfricansTo be original. It wasnt as if a bunch of American Producers were sitting around in a room trying to settle their personal vendetta against South Africans.
and a comment was made relating Apartheid to the treatment of Maori in New Zealandbeing a kiwi I have to say, that's pretty ridiculous. While Maori weren't treated well by any means, and not being proud of our history and being quite embarrased by it, infact - I can safely say Maori were treated ALOT better than South African Blacks, ESPECIALLY in the 20th century.If you wanna go comparing the two. You seem to forget the 1981 rugby springbok tour of NZ and the mayhem that caused down here.