Kevin Had Serious, Serious Issues
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ZeoRangerFive — 16 years ago(December 11, 2009 12:17 PM)
He needed more than a shrink, that kid was mentally disturbed. I've never in my life seen a kid flip out and start crying because kids his age don't like him. When I was younger I wasn't the most popular kid in the world and I got made fun of and stuff but I didn't flip out and start crying. I just said, whatever, and went on with my day. Now I have friends and people don't make fun of me anymore. That kid needed to be put away in a mental hospital. That scene where he starts crying because he lost his retainer is ridiculous! Life goes on, get over it.
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MuchToBeGratefulFor — 16 years ago(December 11, 2009 02:32 PM)
He had a lower tolerance for frustration than you, but that doesn't make him mentally disturbed. He was going through a phase, and the movie indicated that he was a happier, calmer kid by the end. And he probably has more empathy than you.
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ZeoRangerFive — 16 years ago(December 11, 2009 02:58 PM)
And he probably has more empathy than you.
Oh okay. Why should I care what others think of me? That's what that kid should have been taught, to just be yourself and screw everyone else.
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MuchToBeGratefulFor — 16 years ago(December 14, 2009 02:29 PM)
Having a meltdown because he lost his retainer was not about caring what others thought of him it was about being anxious and having poor coping skills, which is true of a lot of adults too. He had clearly gotten better on these counts by the end of the movie.
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stevenackerman69 — 16 years ago(January 02, 2010 08:00 PM)
Well, maybe he felt upset over that because he felt he let his parents down by not taking care of it. Remember it cost money and they might've told him to take care of it and he thought, "Oh, great. Now I've let my parents down. Can't do anything right." Some kids might've gotten upset or worried, but wouldn't have cried over the thing. They would realize it wasn't their fault and the parents aren't going to kill them over it.
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cainjs — 12 years ago(September 04, 2013 07:54 AM)
I work with a 60 year old woman who cries all the time over nothing. I've never seen someone who cries so much. One time she cried and asked our manager why she didn't like her.
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stevenackerman69 — 16 years ago(January 02, 2010 08:01 PM)
Well, that is a good way to think, but sometimes it is difficult when you are trying to make friends and please people. It is a good attitude to have but sometimes it is difficult to maintain. I've been that way myself.
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SSteveL — 12 years ago(October 12, 2013 12:38 PM)
He had a lower tolerance for frustration than you, but that doesn't make him mentally disturbed. He was going through a phase, and the movie indicated that he was a happier, calmer kid by the end. And he probably has more empathy than you.
Great post, MuchToBeGratefulFor.
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Jane2005 — 16 years ago(January 01, 2010 05:35 PM)
I've never in my life seen a kid flip out and start crying because kids his age don't like him.
WOW - you haven't been around many kids. Children display frustration and lack of self confidence in many different ways. Some emote openly, like Kevin. Others keep it inside but suffer from depression, eating disorders, cutting themselves, etc.
(Kevin) needed to be put away in a mental hospital. That scene where he starts crying because he lost his retainer is ridiculous! Life goes on, get over it.
I have to agree with the other MuchToBeGratefulFor that Kevin's meltdown about his retainer was not indicative of serious mental issue. Kids get like that because they're tired, over-extended, frustrated by other events in their lives, etc.
Yes, you hope by adulthood someone like Kevin would've figured things out how to cope with frustrations in life, how to handle peer pressure, etc. But kids have to have the opportunity to do that as kids without adults judging them from the adult perspective (which creates a more stressful environment).
Kids are just growing humans trying to figure out how it all works. It's easy to be an adult and judge them for their "rookie" mistakes, but that only makes things worse for the kids. Thank goodness Kevin had a parent like Steve Martin in his corner. I'm sure he ended up okay.
Rarely are kids born with complete self confidence and lack of concern about what others think of them. Kids like that end up being poor team players at work, or (worse case scenario) end up being serial killers. No joke - they lack any concern over what others think of them and have no empathy for others as part of their physiological/psychological make up.
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stevenackerman69 — 16 years ago(January 02, 2010 07:58 PM)
Well, some kids are very sensitive about things and cannot understand the way other kids react to them. I think Kevin felt that he couldn't do anything right, like with the baseball game where he drops the fly ball. The kids sort of made him feel that way, like when he is told he stinks. Some kids can just ignore that and others can't.
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ZeoRangerFive — 16 years ago(February 22, 2010 05:48 PM)
Yes, because anyone who comes on the internet to share a view on something that people disagree on is automatically "immature" or "ignorant". Those 2 words usually come up often because said person can't come up with any other discussion especially when it involves something that person disagrees with. Thanks for that discussion jumping off point!
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Nearvana — 16 years ago(February 22, 2010 07:32 PM)
in a way you are right. saying you are more disturbed would be implying the kid was severely disturbed. apathy, as you've shown, is an equally paralleled 'symptom'. you're not deciphering the difference or recognizing the similarities, shows the inexperience or ignorance. that isn't mean to sound anymore or less patronizing, i'm sure. & !
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trf100 — 16 years ago(March 29, 2010 06:09 AM)
Losing his retainer was the straw-that-broke-the-donkey's-back event
Don't forget that Kevin (who is an extremely sensitive child) had just been threatened and bullied out of money in public; in front of his family and his school mates.
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(April 20, 2013 08:20 PM)
That's not even remotely funny, nor does it make any sense.
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ZeoRangerFive — 15 years ago(June 25, 2010 06:13 PM)
I usually can't, I just conceal it to myself, I don't flip out over dumb stuff. People just need to calm down.
Oh, no. I LOST MY RETAINER! OH MY GOD.
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