Who here wanted to punch Clarice
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fcolli — 9 years ago(December 04, 2016 09:33 AM)
In the novel, she turned and started firing blindly when she heard the hammer being thumbed back by Gumm, which Harris described as an unmistakable sound. Perhaps Gumm himself was hesitating to fire. He may have been enjoying his cat and mouse game a bit too much. It's also an unnecessary action, since all modern pistols are double action. But all movie makers love those added few seconds of tension that the action adds to the scene.
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grantb-64490 — 9 years ago(August 03, 2016 12:52 AM)
Wrong. It depends on the circumstances, and the situation in the movie was definitely one of those circumstances where use of deadly force against even an unarmed fleeing felon would be justifiable.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule
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Marmadukebagelhole — 10 years ago(February 18, 2016 04:40 AM)
My goodness. It sounds as if Clarice Starling wasn't a hardened, experienced agent. Punch her for me too.
But wait.
Hear me out. Maybe there's a part of the film which conveys that Clarice is NOT an amazing field officer who is flawlessly proficient in these type of situations whilst in training.
Maybe someone who has seen the film might go out of their way to check it out, ooooooooooorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, Marmaduke can remember what he saw.
Yep. That's right! They put a scene early in the film to demonstrate that Clarice does not have significant prowess with hostile field situations. Add to that the fact that Crawford is picking up Bill at a location miles and miles away and the fact that this is a suspense thriller, then your post starts to sound like whiny, ignorant load of crap.
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Mitchcraft — 10 years ago(February 19, 2016 07:33 AM)
The only person i wanted to punch was Buffalo Bill when he was plying the music and dressing up, the combination of that and him killing those girls drove me mad i was like you sick F'ck just get caught and die already.
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nemenemenes — 9 years ago(May 22, 2016 06:18 AM)
- She is new, inexperienced, perhaps newer shot at a person before.
- Though she suspected the guy was Buffalo Bill, she still didn't have clear evidence he was definitely Bufallo Bill. After hearing the girl at the basement, she became sure.
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zumannaruto — 9 years ago(July 21, 2016 07:43 AM)
That is because you failed to understand that foster is suppost to potray the weak female to show how womens were looked at the time.It is also about feminisn (not todays one )
The scene at the elevator in the beginning?The scene when cops look at her like she is weak and not her place among 'strong' men.
The movie clearly shows this in many place but i guess you are just too big of a fool to see the obvious
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MatineeThespian — 9 years ago(July 29, 2016 07:33 AM)
Who here wanted to punch Clarice
God she sucks.
Sounds to me like they should have postponed giving her FBI status.
She was such a joke, just came off as a giggling school girl, I saw no difference between her and Denise Richards from The World is not Enough. Couldn't take her seriously as an FBI agent.
OP, you're killing me!
I agree though that I couldn't take her seriously as an FBI agent (I didn't have a problem with Jodie Foster's performance, as paradoxical as it might sound, but moreso with the character of Clarice).
Also, you know what's funny? In the sequel,
Hannibal
, Clarice and Hannibal Lecter get together again and by that point Clarice's career has majorly slumped after she shot a person she shouldn't have. lol
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pistrix — 9 years ago(August 29, 2016 07:24 PM)
For one thing she was still a trainee. She had already, earlier in the film, made the mistake of not covering all her corners during a training procedure where she did end up "dead."
She probably wanted to take him alive, and she didn't know if Catherine Martin was in the house or not. Why shoot, and possibly kill him before saving the victim. On top of that FBI agents if they can will take the suspect alive to learn from them.
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Murphed87 — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 12:42 PM)
What messed up the situation is that she made it look so obvious that she figured out who he was. He picked up on her demeanor and started chuckling and she was wide eyed and stiff and not behaving naturally.
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pistrix — 9 years ago(November 10, 2016 04:38 PM)
Put yourself in her shoes. You have ZERO idea it is the serial killer until you see the moth. You are without backup, without help, as you did not at all ever suspect the knocking on the door to begin with was the door of the serial killer.
You have not completed training yet, and yeah you would be a bit shocked inside to realize holy beep you are in fact standing and talking to the serial killer you are hunting. You also have no idea if he has weapons close by, nothing. She was not really wide eyed. ONCE she realized he was Bill she unsnapped her gun discreetly. Her voice was not as naive to the situation, but she was calm, and had asked to use his phone, once he offered her up the business card. HE then knew she was on to him. SHE pulled the gun to arrest and he ran. She was behaving as naturally as she possibly could given the situation. She simply asked to use the phone and then he was acting weird after that.
I mean honestly, you are a trainee, this is the first major case of your FBI life and you did NOT expect to be the one to have to take down the violent serial killer. You have no idea about weapons close by, you have no idea if the Catherine is alive. Your objective was simply to ask around to understand the victim to then try and understand the serial killer, but you come face to face with him instead.
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stevekaczynski — 9 years ago(November 22, 2016 04:29 AM)
I thought the entire situation not very realistic. She is not actually expecting to run into Bill, but she would not be going there alone even to interview someone. Lecter's jibe about Crawford getting help from the student body seems appropriate here. But a nice tense scene if you ignore the unlikeliness.
As somebody remarked up the thread, in
Hannibal
her career is in a tailspin because she shot someone she should not have. Here, she should have shot and did not.
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J-Curl-BiggernBlacker — 5 years ago(June 09, 2020 06:43 PM)
Because then we wouldn’t have had one of the tensest, most lived in scenes in cinema history. I’ve seen this movie a million times over the last nearly 30 years, and Clarice trying to find Buffalo Bill in the dark in his den always scares the sh!t out of me.
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preachcaleb — 5 years ago(November 17, 2020 05:36 PM)
Absolutely agree.
Some people here seem to think that law enforcement can just shoot people in the back. Or they forget Clarice was a trainee with no real field experience before getting roped into the Buffalo Bill case.
So many stories, so little time.
