Chaplin a PEDOPHILE?
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wargames83 — 14 years ago(August 07, 2011 04:03 AM)
"or any adult male over 20 years of age would have had sex or married a teenage girl between 15-18 years of age NOW, in these times, even if it was consensualthey would be quickly sent to Prison to rot for years and would be called a Pedophile,"
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Mattfinbell — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 04:19 PM)
jtf1986
"or any adult male over 20 years of age would have had sex or married a teenage girl between 15-18 years of age NOW, in these times, even if it was consensualthey would be quickly sent to Prison to rot for years and would be called a Pedophile,"
Wrong, the age of consent in many states is 16.
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Planikta — 11 years ago(April 22, 2014 08:51 AM)
"If Charlie Chaplin or any adult male over 20 years of age would have had sex or married a teenage girl between 15-18 years of age NOW, in these times, even if it was consensualthey would be quickly sent to Prison to rot for years and would be called a Pedophile, a Predator, and a Sex Offender."
Wait, what?
Where do you live, that a 20 year old can't be with an 18 year old?! Wow. Where I live, people can give consent from 16, so nothing he did in the movie seemed unlawful to me, although that doesn't make it "right" either. Heck, Ren Angelil has been around Cline Dion since she was 12 and he's not rotting in jail or labeled a pedo/predator?! -
KrazeeforKittiez — 12 years ago(January 23, 2014 04:59 PM)
My grandmother was 13/14 when she married in the 20's and my mom was 16 when she married the first time.
Chaplin always carried a torch for his first love who was very young and I think that is why he always preferred much younger women.
I don't think he was a pedophile. The first wife lied about being pregnant so he would marry her and the second (with the aid of her mother) put herself in his space as much as possible. Then when they divorced; she took him for every penny she could. Joan Barry claimed he was father to her daughter even though blood tests proved that was not possible.he paid child support for 21 years.
None of them were innocent young girlsthey knew what was going on and they took advantage of the situation also.
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horsenbuggy — 11 years ago(March 29, 2015 03:51 PM)
You're missing there point, though. In order for him to be tricked with either if those pregnancies, there had to have been intimacy first. It's that act with such young girls that makes it seem creepy too us, not that he married them or they ended up pregnant. Some would say that he "fixed" the situation by marrying them. But if they'd never gotten pregnant (or claimed to have been), he was still sleeping with them and probably wouldn't have married them.
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dancinlukey — 15 years ago(May 30, 2010 09:53 PM)
Got to agree any 54 years old who marries a 17 year old is a dirty old man who obviously doesn't have the intelligence or maturity to find love with someone his own age.
Lets not make excuses like "It was more common back then" back then women couldn't vote and blacks were second class citizens doesn't make it ok. Chaplin was a paedophile plain and simple. -
nellybly-3 — 15 years ago(August 15, 2010 07:18 PM)
My grandfather was 52 when he married my 18 year old grandmother. She was his first, last, and only wife. They had five children between 1905 and 1918. My dad was the middle child born in 1912 and the only boy.
She was actually already a widow when they married, and went on to marry twice more. One time she said to my mom "Just because there's snow on the roof doesn't mean there's no fire in the basement." She was in her 70s by then.
BTW my dad was 36 when he married my 21 year old mother. He'd been married twice before, the first ending in divorce (that wife was close to him in age) and the second in the death of his 16 year old wife in childbirth. Mama was one month older than Daddy's second wife. Both were born in 1927.
My parents' marriage lasted until Daddy's death in 1975. They were married 26 years, a few more months it would have 27 years.
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KTope — 13 years ago(November 25, 2012 03:10 PM)
You have got to be kidding.
He wasn't running around molesting little girls in their sleep, he was courting girls who had the careers and looks of full grown women. Being attracted to youth is not to be confused with being attracted to little kids.
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jejozi — 13 years ago(December 30, 2012 01:21 AM)
He was NOT a pedophile. If you're going to brand him using 21st century mores, use the proper terminology, ephebophilia. And judging him by our times is unbelievable unfair. Things WERE different back then.
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baran_erik — 10 years ago(May 03, 2015 07:47 PM)
Really? What a coincidence, one of your lovers said the same thing about you! See how I turned around unsubstantiated gossip to make a point? I said you have had a lover! Which of CCs lovers claimed that? And I guess I don't have the imagination ol' Charlie had, but what positions "work only with kids"? Please cite your legitimate sources.
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GunesFS — 15 years ago(May 31, 2010 09:08 AM)
A paedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. It may be morally wrong for an older man to have a relationship with a seventeen year old girl, but Chaplin was not a paedophile.
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sweiland75 — 15 years ago(June 23, 2010 07:56 PM)
It is amazing how many people misuse that word.
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Strazdamonas — 13 years ago(August 18, 2012 05:13 AM)
You can thank our media for that, because every time a 18 year old boy has sex with 17 year old girl all the television channels scream "pedofile" for a month.
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Mattfinbell — 12 years ago(September 28, 2013 05:39 PM)
GunesFS
A paedophile is an adult who is sexually attracted to prepubescent children. It may be morally wrong for an older man to have a relationship with a seventeen year old girl, but Chaplin was not a paedophile.
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If a gay man were too do that he would cruxified for LIFE!
sweiland75
It is amazing how many people misuse that word.
its amazing how we have a double standard for straight love versus gay love!
razdamonas
You can thank our media for that, because every time a 18 year old boy has sex with 17 year old girl all the television channels scream "pedofile" for a month.
I do agree
jpm4444
Brigham Young was 48 and he was sleeping with a 14 year old bride;
Times were different then too; some girls got married at 13 or 14.
Yet if a gay man made love to a 13 14 year old boy he would be branded from life and possiably castrated
Look at the coal minors daughter Loreta Lynn who married as a young teen, not even knowing what sex was.
I think he had a thing for young girls; to be honest most men do.
then they need to talk to there wives! not little girls
When Anna Kournakova was smoking hot at 15 years old I dont' think those ratings sky rocketed to see what type of ribbon she was wearing in her pony tail.
It's easy to judge but society is as bad.
No your proably right but that doesnt mean its going to be acceptable. We have age of consent for a reason.
Polanski was much different; he was a perv that drugged a young teen to screw her; not to marry her.
Like J Edgar Hoover said, he marries all of them; he cant' get into trouble
there both pervs
WllmShakespeare
Well you cant really consider someone a pedophile/pederast when they are sexually attracted to a person who is sexually mature which 16 - 17 year olds certainly are despite what the law says. Put it this way; If a gorgeous 17 year old person wanted to have sex with you and lied and told you they were 20, would you NOT be sexually attracted to them? You would be because they are sexually mature. well some states allow that SOME but for gay love its 18 why is that? In Great Britain they have lowered the age of consent for both straight and gay love at 16 beierfilms Personally, I always find it a bit creepy when a very old man goes after a rather young woman. That said, there's nothing particularly shocking about Chaplin. First off, let's not compare him to Polanski. Polanski drugged and RAPPED (force) a 13 year old girl. Big difference. Doesnt matter his like Mary Kay Letruenau Second, as others have pointed out, a pedophile is really someone who lusts after those who have yet to reach sexual maturity. Chaplin was lusting after young virgins but those who had reached sexual maturity. that maybe so but his like putting his toe across the line! Again why wouldnt a woman satisfy him? Finally, taking into account the times is important. Once again, I agree it's odd for a man that age the fact is that maturity is on a case by case basis and the age that a society chooses is largely arbitrary. In 2010, a 50 year old man can marry an 17 or 18 year old girl and no one bats an eye lash. True but its still perverted for a 50 year old man marrying or dating a young guy who is the same age 90 years ago, marrying a 16-year-old was acceptable. I really don't see how we can lambast someone for a difference of one year. Maybe in 2030, the age of conscent will be 21 and we'll look at anyone getting married under that as odd. Oh I know but not for gay males there is that double standard. I doubt it when we reach 2030. Plus i doubt it with gay love if the guy is 90 and the other person is 16 or 17 WllmShakespeare A 50 year old guy marrying a 17 year old is really not creepy at all no more than them being friends. In the grand scheme of things age means absolutely nothing. Oh yes it is. Why we have age of consent is becuase kids are not fully mature yet to handle adults things even if there bodies can house a child and give birth. All that matters is being alive. People die everyday from the age of birth to 100. If someone dies at 17 does that mean they were middle aged at 8 1/2? Yes it does! How so? You cant base someone on age because then you are guessing death which is foolish.
how are you guessing death?
People can die at any time. Yes a 50 year old has more of a chance of dying and has more life experience than a 17 year old, but that is just living life through pure gambling. The only thing that matters is being alive now. Johnny Depp is now 47, so does this mean if he wants to go out with a 17 year old he is sick?
If its the age of consent no but why would a 47 year old have the same interests as some younger? When your that age your reactions are slower and you begin to feel the age. Versus someone younger and all that.
He is a pedophile? Of course not. All that matters is if two people can connect and enjoy love and life together.. In 100 years, even 70 years from now, everyone alive today will probably be dead so what is the point?
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jpm4444 — 15 years ago(June 17, 2010 01:16 AM)
Brigham Young was 48 and he was sleeping with a 14 year old bride;
Times were different then too; some girls got married at 13 or 14.
Look at the coal minors daughter Loreta Lynn who married as a young teen, not even knowing what sex was.
I think he had a thing for young girls; to be honest most men do.
When Anna Kournakova was smoking hot at 15 years old I dont' think those ratings sky rocketed to see what type of ribbon she was wearing in her pony tail.
It's easy to judge but society is as bad.
Polanski was much different; he was a perv that drugged a young teen to screw her; not to marry her.
Like J Edgar Hoover said, he marries all of them; he cant' get into trouble.
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beierfilms — 15 years ago(June 27, 2010 08:52 PM)
Personally, I always find it a bit creepy when a very old man goes after a rather young woman. That said, there's nothing particularly shocking about Chaplin.
First off, let's not compare him to Polanski. Polanski drugged and RAPPED (force) a 13 year old girl. Big difference.
Second, as others have pointed out, a pedophile is really someone who lusts after those who have yet to reach sexual maturity. Chaplin was lusting after young virgins but those who had reached sexual maturity.
Finally, taking into account the times is important. Once again, I agree it's odd for a man that age the fact is that maturity is on a case by case basis and the age that a society chooses is largely arbitrary. In 2010, a 50 year old man can marry an 17 or 18 year old girl and no one bats an eye lash. 90 years ago, marrying a 16-year-old was acceptable. I really don't see how we can lambast someone for a difference of one year. Maybe in 2030, the age of conscent will be 21 and we'll look at anyone getting married under that as odd.