Plot Holes and things to explain and character Fates
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(August 19, 2013 06:11 AM)
I think the other thugs either died in the explosion or are simply running loose (which isn't really a plot hole). They could have simply escaped and are on the run.
I heard Stallone and Ventura had a fight scene that was cut from the movie.
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Kuato_and_George — 12 years ago(August 19, 2013 10:39 AM)
I forget exactly where I heard it. I remember seeing a clip of an interview with the both of them on YouTube, and I believe one of the comments mentions the scene was cut out.
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demolition18 — 10 years ago(February 17, 2016 11:56 AM)
Here's a link with this video that gives brief description.
http://www.manlymovie.net/2015/02/video-stalloneventura-talk-demolition-man-fight-scene.html -
demolition18 — 11 years ago(August 06, 2014 02:36 PM)
http://theactionelite.com/2013/08/deleted-alternate-footage-from-demol ition-man/
There's the top video that's what to watch. Now Jesse Ventura shown it in. In the cut out cryo-prison scenes John Spartan (I saw on the trading cards as well) has a berretta in the right hand and revolver Edgar Friendly gave him in the left hand. There's a shot of John Spartan in the trailer walking through the door with the revolver in the left hand and metal bars with him searching under lights holding the revolver in the right hand. What's not cut out then John Spartan pulls out 2 berrettas fighting Simon Phoenix one last time. I think that John Spartan shoots a couple of new recruits and 2 more knock him to the ground. He shoots them and gets back up with maybe putting the berretta in the left hand revolver in the right hand and fights Jesse Ventura to John Spartan ending up emptying the revolver on Jesse Ventura's character as someone said they were slugging it out. There is then John Spartan running in front of a door not exploding.
Question: Jesse Ventura in Demolition Man
What happens to Adam (Jesse Ventura) near the conclusion of Demolition Man? All of 4 of those 6 cryo-cons left over after an underground battle scene were sent downstairs to kill Stallone's character by Wesley Snipes's character and Sly Stallone's character makes these 4 thugs think that he's in the elevator to lie in ambush and sneaks away to get these guys to waste bullets. Jesse Ventura's character had simply vanished. What happened to him?
Answer: RE: Jesse Ventura in Demolition Man.
First off I thought I was the only one that actually watched "D=Man." Well, to answer your question, yes he did vanish. Word I got is that, before all the editing was done on the movie, they were gonna film a fight scene with the two. However, production's budget didn't have enough money for the "GOV" If (and its a big IF!) they ever come out with a DVD for it, it might have some outtakes or deleted scenes. NO PROMISES THOUGH! Hope I've helped! Merry Christmas!
No deleted scenes released. I think as Lenina Huxley knocks out one goon and shoots the other dead she and John Spartan fight 2 more as they discover a dead Raymond Cocteau. Lenina Huxley is to then knock out another (she then would knock out both of them who threw Cocteau's dead body in the fire and John Spartan ends up emptying the revolver on Adam. Then they discover Simon Phoenix defrosting the rest of the cryo-prisoners. But they couldn't afford them back before all the editing was done. Maybe Jesse Ventura choke holding Sylvester Stallone at that part just as Lenina Huxley strikes a thug with the stun baton and John Spartan ends up killing Jesse Ventura's character. He could instead in defeating him knock him out.
Question: computer files/cryo-prisoner programings
This is a Demolition Man question. When Lenina Huxley and John Spartan are looking for Simon Phoenix's rehab, there is pictures of half the men that Phoenix had already sprung. Is this a computer that gives files of escaped convicts or is the computer that gives the rehab of recently released prisoners or is a computer that would display the rehab of cryocons that would become hunted criminals? I didn't even think that the 6 cryocons have any programmings at all. We know that the 80 cryocons have no programmings. I would even think that Chief Earle himself tried to prevent the thawing of the 6 cryocons. Earlier on John Spartan didn't believe Chief Earle that Phoenix was going to start a business. This is where Chief Earle knew what Phoenix was up to and would want to prevent him from forming a crime syndicate. How he prevents what Phoenix is up to is setting out a city wide manhunt. Chief Earle and his officers managed to prevent Simon Phoenix from setting up a new drug lab. The computer even tells him that he is correct. I was thinking that the cops could just try to reform those cryocons with Phoenix out of the way. Phoenix doesn't have any programming to ever reform him. His programming made him worse than he was before. And I think for Phoenix's goons they aren't so mean anymore that there the cops can easily reform them and they must know it. What is the computer for in Lenina Huxley's car do? I was confused on that part because there they show pictures of Kodo, Danzig and Francis. The other half of Phoenix's crime syndicate that Chief Earle projected on L7 are Adam (played by former WWF superstar Jesse "The Body" Ventura), Elvin and Beppo. Does anyone know the rehab of those 6 men? I even think that they have the same rehab as each other. But maybe programming better than Simon Phoenix's. Remember. The rehab on cryocons is done by Raymond Cocteau. Phoenix wouldn't program cryocons. Only Cocteau would. What they do is type in the programming of the cryocons. But these men want to kill John Spartan. Danzig near the end draws a knife on Spartan and Huxley shoots him. That's where she makes her first kill. That's maybe why the 2 cops try to i -
demolition18 — 11 years ago(March 03, 2015 06:43 PM)
I have the petition for deleted/extended/alternate scenes released on change.org. As of so much cut out it appears 2 of Simon Phoenix's henchmen disappeared in front of the fire place and then John Spartan bursting in with gun drawn goes aiming while Lenina Huxley aims her stun baton holding it like a real weapon following John Spartan's lead at the part they discover a dead Raymond Cocteau. They got attacked by a couple of henchmen. Simon Phoenix or anymore henchmen could've attacked them bursting in but Simon Phoenix left off to the cryo-prison with Associate Bob to free everyone else. We see Lenina Huxley knock out one thug and shoot the other one dead. I had the idea that the same 3 men who shoot Cocteau to death and then dump his body in the fire are eliminated when the cryo-prison was blown up. As of no other gun shots heard during the final battle there could be sound proof parts of the cryo-prison building like on lower levels and maybe the rebels lure those henchmen to being eliminated when the cryo-prison was blown up. We could clearly assume during the road chase that the rebels kill a couple of Simon Phoenix's accomplices.
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demolition18 — 10 years ago(August 24, 2015 01:50 PM)
From a video from way back in 1993 during promotion for Demolition Man. A couple of things to note about this video. First Sylvester Stallone and Jesse Ventura talk about a fight scene they share in the movie. Ventura unfortunately deliberately keeps it secret, saying well have to wait and see for ourselves how good it will be. Well the scene was obviously cut. In the scene John Spartan heads to the cryo prison to take out Phoenixs men when theyre all in one place. Stallone and Ventura throw down, with Stallone taking down Ventura with a running tackle.
The second thing about this video, its a WCW (World Championship Wrestling) set visit. Eric Bischoff had just been given control of the company and his first order of business was to cater to males aged 18-49, as the competition, the WWF, was basically a childrens show. Jesse Ventura at the time worked for WCW as a commentator and took some time out to film Demolition Man. Bischoff interviewed Stallone and Ventura as part of his shifting dynamic/tone for WCW, i.e. an R-rated actioner would certainly fall into that category.
Jesse Ventura would end up being fired from WCW within a year of this video. Big bucks were paid to bring in Hulk Hogan, and one of his demands was that Ventura had to go. And so they sent him home. -
demolition18 — 9 years ago(July 11, 2016 02:35 PM)
There's the exploring. Maybe both a prequel and sequel were written years ago. Part 2 I heard on here was to be a prequel. So maybe part 3 a sequel. There could've been the prequel 2 decades ago. Someone put in a review on some character novels and a story about the forming of San Angeles like in books or comics. I was thinking more comic book side stories to extend roles of the minor characters to where Denis Leary's character and his armed followers are the main characters. Maybe on the way to the cryo-prison most of the rebels encounter those who turned their backs on them and a cryocon that Sandra Bullock's character knocked out gets back up and is killed by the Benjamin Bratt character. Also there could be side stories with Denis Leary's character and his armed followers battling the Wesley Snipes played villain's criminal gang and they kill 2 cryocon henchmen. There could be at the building of the cryo-prison during the final Sylvester Stallone vs. Wesley Snipes battle Troy Evans character with who ever is the assistant police chief or otherwise captain teaming with a couple of written out scraps fighting even the Jesse Ventura character just as the Sylvester Stallone vs. Jesse Ventura fight is cut out. Maybe then 2 written out scraps throw the 2 cryocons into the explosion. They show Sandra Bullock's character killing a cryocon. Many of us assume all 6 of the cryocons dead at the very end.
I have read scripts to the film. Originally Denis Leary's character has with him 6 of his followers aiming the guns at Sylvester Stallone's character, Sandra Bullock's character and Benjamin Bratt's character but it's 4 of them. Also there's underground people in Simon Phoenix's new criminal gang as those 2 written out freedom fighters battle them. Many are assuming 2 of the 6 cryocons already unfrozen not seen again (including the Jesse Ventura character) are eliminated when the cryo-prison was blown up.
I can't find anywhere a prequel or sequel script.