John McClane's flanderization similar to Axel Foley's?
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Beverly Hills Cop III
TMC-4 — 13 years ago(February 22, 2013 07:01 PM)
http://www.imdb.com/board/11606378/board/flat/211088288?p=1
Thinking about John's flanderization on how he turned from badass cop to indestructible superhero, actually reminded me of how Axel was flanderized in Beverly Hills Cop 3.
Is it me or has John gone the Axel Foley route?! In the first two Beverly Hills Cop movies, he was a regular cop, that tried to solve mysteries on who killed his friend, in two movies. By the third one, he is some indestructible superhero that tries to save the lives of several kids, in the midst of trying to hunt down Inspector Todd's killer.
In the trilogy, John McClane was a ruthless cop. He saved lives, because there was no one else to do it and partially because he cared about the safety of others. He was a beat-down, alcoholic cop who has had problems with his wife, and that inteferred with his personal life, so when certain things cropped up, like Simon Gruber or Colonel Stuart, or even Hans Gruber, he would get even more angry than he already is, but tried to save things after all. After that, John is turned into an indestructible superhero-esque character that tries to save the day and is in line with Superman or the Avengers, after the trilogy. Hardly shows any emotion and it feels like with the direction of the character, Willis falls flat.
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fxdiamond — 10 years ago(January 20, 2016 02:03 PM)
old topic i know but but i can myself see the similarities between the 2 characters. this can be compared to a lot of others i am sure as well.
they start off as simple and even a bit naive but capable when the going gets tough but mostly still very down to earth. why this is then when we can relate to them the most.
usually by the second movie they are then a bit more glossy and of course have a celebrity like status then. this is usually always the first big transition.
by the third movie well not sure where to start here but they are usually at least still carrying the ultimate hero status and by at least this time they are usually seen as unstoppable killing machines or at least indestructible. some times their personalities can even become unlike their original personas we all know of as well. almost seems like they can do no wrong.