Major plot hole…
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CGSailor — 13 years ago(June 02, 2012 11:39 PM)
whatever dumbass. You just validated my thoughts on you. All I did was point out not to overuse or misuse the term plothole. and you went full retard troll on me.
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davcamp2 — 13 years ago(April 03, 2013 10:49 PM)
No, I read this and you started it by using a condescending tone and thought you were holier than thou with your comment on him not knowing what makes a plot hole. Get off the movie boards with your internet courage. BTW, when someone posts something and the next guy doesn't argue or agree with the point and instead does a subtle stab at making the poster seem stupid, that person is a troll.
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CGSailor — 12 years ago(April 04, 2013 07:44 AM)
The OP didn't understand what a plot hole was.
Too many people do misuse the term plot hole for just any type of goof.
There was nothing "holier than thou" about my pointing that out. and I was not being condescending. That would be YOU wrongfully misinterpreting my statement and then attacking me for your misinterpretation.
I cannot be held responsible for how YOU choose to view something, Only my ACTUAL intentions, which
I
, not
YOU
know what those are.
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desiwombat-427-564347 — 13 years ago(October 05, 2012 05:18 PM)
I dont see it as a goof. There were so many people at the party. Any one of them could have cause the trouble for all sorts of reasons. Settling old scores, making money on the side, sending a message. There is little honour amongst thieves. I don't think she'd go through all of the guests as in a check list. She's a criminal and something bad just when down. She'd get out fast and then go into damage control mode somewhere safe.
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MartyScorsey — 12 years ago(April 04, 2013 05:20 AM)
True, and as she tells the terrorist after Arnold visited her again, "He checked out OK". In other words, they looked him up and his cover sounded legitimate enough for her to trust him (though the terrorist was unconvinced).
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bradknopf — 12 years ago(July 18, 2013 05:00 AM)
Why is it people can't admit they are using a term incorrectly? I remember a guy who told a story about a racer who was fatally injured in a crash, but later recovered. He just didn't get what the term "fatal" meant.
Tia's character's failing to make a connection is NOT a plot hole. Her lack of perception is within the realm of possibility.
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miles-bennett-dyson — 12 years ago(October 08, 2013 12:41 AM)
Welcome to my ignore list, kayrayzeekat.
I like the way you say that as if it's some kind of comeback that will leave the guy very upset and teach him a lesson.
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Lootrock — 12 years ago(November 05, 2013 01:55 PM)
I agree with the OP, while being upset with people's understanding or lack thereof of terms is in your right, there is no need for you to be so contentious about it and at the same time contribute nothing to the actual question. I've seen you do this now on several threads for several different movies and I must say that it is you who needs to grow up. No one likes the self-righteous.
Anyway, back to the original questionthe fact that Harry's departure from the venue at the same time that all the explosions and shooting occurred is not a coincidence anyone looks over - thief or not. She did check him out so that could clear him but she seemed way too open to seeing him again. He must have had some hell of a cover too considering the amount of money and means of intel she had; especially since she also had the wherewithal to track him and his wife to a hotel room. Also, why did Aziz wait so long to tell her about Harry? It's all very iffy. -
CGSailor — 12 years ago(November 05, 2013 03:48 PM)
the fact that Harry's departure from the venue at the same time that all the explosions and shooting occurred is not a coincidence anyone looks over - thief or not.
I'm sure a LOT of guests departed when things started blowing up.
So NO. Despite your judging my character his departure at that time would NOT stand out as mysterious.
I'm pretty sure the party was over for everyone when things started blowing up.
And pointing such things out is not me being what was the term you used? Self Righteous?
It is you not thinking everything through.
I can see how someone unable to think it through all the way would see someone else pointing out the flaws in their ideas as "self righteous" but it's not the case.
Question to you.
How does one go about pointing out the wrongness in someone else's idea without that person taking it personally as the other being "self righteous"?
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Lootrock — 12 years ago(November 06, 2013 12:06 PM)
Here are the contents of your entire initial post:
Just because something may or may not be a goof does NOT mean it is a plot hole.
Too many people just throw out the term plot hole as though it is interchangeable with goof. A plot hole is a very specific type of goof.
Do yourself a favor and learn what a plot hole is before suggesting anything is a plot hole.
thanks in advance.
Where in this response do you find an actual reply to the question? It is
this
type of behaviour that makes you come off as self-righteous because you have a habit of doing it. Merely pointing out flaws does not make one self-righteous, it's in the manner in which it is done.
Anyway, in response to your rebuttal: He departed right
before
all the explosions took place. It's not like he just slipped out either, he left rather abruptly and with her full attention. Why would there have been a large exodus before the explosions had occurred? And what idiot international terrorists would not think heavily about those circumstances? Also, no-one else at the party knew who he was and she knew
everyone
. You don't think they checked the guest lists thoroughly after the fact? If my memory is correct, isn't it also true that he didn't have an invitation? How did Aziz know about him and why did he wait so long to tell her? You never addressed those points either nor the fact that they had the means to find them on the fake mission. Please address all these points before making accusations. -
hubcap18 — 10 years ago(June 18, 2015 07:24 PM)
You don't think they checked the guest lists thoroughly after the fact? If my memory is correct, isn't it also true that he didn't have an invitation?
Do you see the problem there? He didn't have an invitation, so he wouldn't be on the guest list.
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MurphAndTheMagicTones — 12 years ago(December 31, 2013 10:18 AM)
How does one go about pointing out the wrongness in someone else's idea without that person taking it personally as the other being "self righteous"?
This line makes you look self-righteous
Do yourself a favor and learn what a plot hole is before suggesting anything is a plot hole.
thanks in advance.
Leave that out, and you would have been fine. You'd have gotten far less people being contentious with you, even if they agreed it wasn't a plot hole.
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Anorensic — 12 years ago(February 20, 2014 09:44 PM)
Well it is a plot hole if Tia Carrere's character did know for sure (or even suspected) that Harry was a government agent responsible for the mishap at the party, then it would have been quite foolish of him to approach her once he was exposed, she would have just put a bullet in his head right there (as they try to kill him later) and that would have been the end of the story..
But she's actually taken in by him at the party and have almost no reason to suspect him as some have mentioned above, so this is neither a plot hole nor a goof.
In fact the terrorist guy seemed quite over-paranoid to me, getting suspicion of some random guy (to him) that Tia met at some party and was just showing around, she should make a lot of business deals this way. Maybe they were involved and he was just being jealous or maybe it was a goof.. or a plothole, hmm!!