Was Michelle the original wolf that bit Jack? (SPOILERS!)
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Jetfire59 — 16 years ago(February 01, 2010 12:36 AM)
Jwarren2001 & riveroserik, You got it. She was given the "wolf essence" or whatever you call it when she had sex with Will. No way was she the wolf that bit him. She was way too freaked out by what the cop told her about the canine DNA they found in Mrs. Randall's wounds. When she goes back to the car and he comes up behind her, she is very jumpy. Had she been the wolf who bit him, she wouldn't have been.
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aquascenes83 — 16 years ago(April 10, 2009 03:26 PM)
Yeah, thats how i remember it. Pretty sure Spader bites her in the last scene of the movie when they are fighting eachother in the horse stable. She turns into a full wolf a lot quicker than Jack's transformation though so its kinda weird. It's on now so ill have to look for that.
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DSo1976 — 13 years ago(March 18, 2013 06:38 PM)
^^^^^^^^^
This!!!! What are all you people talking about with the transference of the wolf essence through sex? It was very clear that James Spader bit/scratched her.
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hippiewanab — 16 years ago(April 30, 2009 03:07 AM)
I just saw the movie for the first time and thought it was amazing, extremely underrated and not well known enough. From the very beginning the first scene they do together, I thought it was strange how he just randomly ran into her. And to me I think she is the original wolf that bit him. The things that made me think that is how strange it was that they ran into each other like that, and how from the beginning they had a chemistry and he was almost drawn to her. I don't think she was changed through sex, because his wife wasn't and she had sex with both men that became werewolves after they were bitten and she didn't become one. I know what the man said that he talked to "passion" but I think that was added in there just to make you think. They never said she couldn't hear the phone ringing or that she was scaredI'm still not quite sure what to think of her going to the police, but it doesn't change the way I see it. The thing that stands out to me, is am I the only one who noticed how old the photos he was looking at in her house looked?? And how strange that two people in her family die..her brother being psycho and the way Jack described her and how she acted sounds to me like she was keeping secrets from people. But the end, when she mentions what the officers had drank..instead of being shocked her dad laughed. And when her eyes glowed yellow that did it for me. Neither one of the other characters that turned to werewolves eyes were that color, but her eyes were the same color as the one in the beginning. And her dad didn't question her on how nonchalant she seemed about the whole ordeal. She didn't have enough time to transform is she had gotten scratched in the fight and all of it just seems to point toward her being the original werewolf to me
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daisy-tillman3 — 16 years ago(February 08, 2010 09:20 AM)
I am so glad this thread was opened - I totally agree, Michelle (Laura) WAS the wolf that bit him. That fade out scene between Laura's eyes and that of the Vermont wolf was meant to elude to that. I think Laura knew what her father was doing to Will, I think she sought him out in a way. I think she was testing his worth - all the stuff in between was a ruse for the viewing audience to throw us off the fact that she was the mastermind. Sex couldn't have been the transferring factor, otherwise Mrs. Randall would have been a wolf, too. Great movie. Love the Morricone soundtrack. All hail the Spader!
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AcademyAwardWinnerJordy — 16 years ago(March 16, 2010 01:39 AM)
^How could that be? She didn't have supersonic hearing, she didn't have supersonice smelling and why weren't the animals afraid of her?????
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daisy-tillman3 — 16 years ago(March 16, 2010 04:46 AM)
You know, I been rethinking my analysis of the situation lately, and it seems another poster was right, the passion of the wolf was enough to change Michelle's character. I now believe that she became a wolf after sleeping with Will.
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koffeenkreame41-1 — 14 years ago(March 07, 2012 05:27 AM)
^^Agreed, that last shot of her before the fade to black made me think the same. She had to be the one was watching Jack take off in his car after he was bitten.
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smokehill retrievers — 16 years ago(April 30, 2009 10:03 AM)
No, or the horse would have been afraid of her, like Jack.
The only thing that makes sense is that her "turning" began when she made love to Jack. She was bitten by Spader, I think, but the time wouldn't have been adequate to do anything to her, based on how it went with Jack. By the end of the movie, only a few minutes after the fight with Spader, she was clearly "turning" and knew what she was.
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pfalkyk — 16 years ago(May 19, 2009 03:04 PM)
no. i don't believe so. i see nothing to connect michelle's character with the original werewolf. she was far too easily subdued by james spader's werewolf AND! the horses were mortally terrified of Will when he was barely even beginning to feel his wolf nature. yet michelle's character could ride the horses without difficulty EXCEPT when Will appeared & frightened the manure out of them.
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visiondelmar — 15 years ago(August 20, 2010 12:53 PM)
I posted this in another thread, but considering the debate it is worth posting here:
Throughout the film Laura was not a Wolf, she became one later.
There is an underlying theme throughout the film of being bitten and turning into a Wolf. Will was bitten, Stewart was bitten, and the Dr. asked to be bitten to become one.
I doubt sex is enough to become a Wolf, or Wills wife would have changed in the days that followed after making love. While I agree with the Dr.s belief that one doesnt have to be bitten to become one, and that the passion of the wolf alone can make one change.
Had Laura this passion she would have turned into a Wolf earlier in the film. We can agree that if she did not spend the night with Will she wouldnt have become one. Something had to have happened the night she spent with him.
Most likely Will bit her. He did turn that night, biting her would be hard to avoid. A little nibbling easily turned into a bite:), as they were making noises. Especially with Will being the animal he is, I doubt he could control himself:)
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erikriveros — 16 years ago(October 25, 2009 12:35 PM)
i thought pfieffer became the wolf from sex with nicholsonwhat i took from the convo with the mystic is that many things can turn you into a werewolf, not just the obvious, getting bit
i agree that nicholson's unfaithful wife could have become a werewolf had she not been killedpfeiffer understood that there were werewolves about, while in the police station when she asks spader if he had been bitwhen she realized that she too was becoming a werewolf, she liked it (everyone that turned, enjoyed being a wolf) and she was prepared
great scene, pfeiffer looked fantastic!!,
interesting side note, jack nicholson, the actor can actually turn women into wolves, bears, and any other damn thing he wishes, but he can control it.
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