A Not So Subtle Message For Those Of The Christian Faith?
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zeta1983-1 — 16 years ago(February 01, 2010 07:21 PM)
In my experience most Science Fiction writers are not friendly to religion and vice versa. Science is based on questioning and investigation, religion on believing without evidence. Science & religion aren't always incompatible but in most cases are not good bedfellows.
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walter907 — 12 years ago(September 10, 2013 08:44 PM)
Read more science fiction. Or study more religion. There are many religious scientists and I've seen science fiction which includes religion positively (Orson Scott Card, Firefly). But most science fiction just doesn't dwell on religion one way or the other unless its required for the story.
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ZAROVE — 10 years ago(November 05, 2015 03:47 AM)
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This post is bunk, base don a poor understandign of the topic. Mainly it relies on arguments famous Atheists ;ike Richard Dawkisn made, rather than on objective analyisis.
In my experience most Science Fiction writers are not friendly to religion and vice versa.
In y expeirnce, most peopel who are Hostiel to Relgiion, and see themselves as not Religious, are fooling themselves. They hve their own form fo Religion, they just don't cal it that.
I'd also like to pointout two things. Sience Fiction Writers aren't always Scientists, or even usually so, and the fact that most Sci Fi Writers aren't actually hostile to "Relgiion". Soem are, or were, but not all or most. Many "Religious people" also enjoy Sci Fi.
Science is based on questioning and investigation, religion on believing without evidence.
No, Religion is not based on beleif without evidence. If you think you can prove it is by sayign Relgiion is "based on Faith", and then define Faith as beleif withut evidnece, you prove my earlier point. Faith isn't beleif without vidence, its simply another word for Trust. Religion is not base don anything. Religion is a blanket term used to descibe ones beleifs about he nature and meangn fo our exitence, and doens't delve into how one arrives at said beleifs. One can eaisly base ones Religion on Sicntific INvwstigation.
Science & religion aren't always incompatible but in most cases are not good bedfellows.
his is sheer nonsense. The idea that Sicence and Relgiion have any problems at al only goes bakc to the 19th Cntiry, and has been debuned since he 1950's. -
jbaker1-2 — 1 year ago(October 16, 2024 04:19 AM)
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jesse859 — 16 years ago(February 18, 2010 11:17 PM)
From what I have seen, the messages that Hollywood has to those of the Christian faith are based on their own misconceptions of what Christianity is in the first place. The only people who will buy into such messages are those who have never really understood what Christianity is. And sadly, most people don't. But that is partly because of the many misrepresentations of Christianity in our day by many who claim to be Christians.
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lyric_suite78 — 15 years ago(May 23, 2010 03:19 PM)
The only real political bias i found on the show is the ever present anti-male screed. In every single episode its always the male who has some form of moral flaw or another, while the wife is always perfect and without faults. In The Choice, the one episode about females with super powers being chased by government agents they make it even look like there's a war going on against women and men. I've come to accept feminist propaganda in modern films but this series takes the cake.
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WalletGuy — 15 years ago(May 24, 2010 09:54 AM)
^What about episodes such as Quality of Mercy, Caught in the Act, First Anniversary, and Flower Child which all feature the women as not just the villains, but as evil aliens who attack men and must be stopped by men? These episodes also keep up the women as temptresses/seductresses stereotype that I do not think feminists would like. And don't forget the female nudity on the show.
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lyric_suite78 — 15 years ago(May 24, 2010 08:01 PM)
There is a difference between making a statement of moral superiority of one sex over the other and merely casting a man or a woman in an evil role, where gender is merely incidental. They are just evil characters. In many of the episodes of this show, it is often that good men are portrayed as being morally deficient for no other reason that they are men. As for the nudity, as much as feminists like to complain about the exploitation of the female body, it was they who started the sexual revolution. Society wasn't quite as pornographic when men were in "charge", so to speak.
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WalletGuy — 15 years ago(May 25, 2010 05:46 PM)
^You misunderstood me, my point was not that the women were just evil characters. In the four episodes I previously mentioned, the aliens choose to take the form of women and attack men. It is then the role of the men to stop them. Why do these evil aliens take the form of women so many times compared to men? And why is it the men who are the heroes who must defeat these aliens in disguise as women and not human women? My point about nudity wasn't its existence, but the amount of it compared to male nudity. The nudity in those episodes has nothing to do with the "sexual revolution" and I think it would cause feminists to point out the double standard.
Besides The Choice (which to be fair I haven't seen in awhile) what episodes are you talking about? There was Lithia about the future society of only women, but the message (at least the message I got) was that the women who ran the society became just as domineering, controlling, and violent than the men they had replaced and felt they were better than. I just think you are reading way too much into an anthology series written by many different writers with many different ideas. Most of the writers on the show were men and I doubt that they consciously intended portray men as inherently inferior. It's kinda funny, one complaint about the original Twilight Zone was that it has weak female characters.