Deborah and Robert should have had an affair
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leedeelee — 9 years ago(November 23, 2016 04:56 AM)
Right? He's way too sensitive. No matter how sweet or adoring he would be to her, she'd still be a screaming shrew ordering him to "get the door!" "get the phone!" She'd destroy him and give him even MORE self-esteem issues!
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Wildstyle26 — 9 years ago(November 26, 2016 09:48 PM)
Debra has had, or initiated sex with Ray a good bit. Either he ruined it, or his family interrupted. There's almost 30 examples of Debra being interested in sex.
I am just copying an pasting an old post. Since this topic came up a good bit when the board was more active. I cut off many to keep the post short. If you want the rest of the examples, just ask.
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In The Power of No, Debra wanted sex 3 nights in a row, and Ray turned her down at every chance. I can understand him wanting to see how it feels to be pursued. But he lost 3 nights of sex all on his own because of it.
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Then in the episode in season 5, The Sneeze. Debra is dressed sexy, lighting candles and ready for sex, and all Ray can talk about is snot and getting sneezed on.
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On his birthday, Marie is angry at him. He and Debra are about to have sex, and she praises him not worrying about Marie being mad at him, and how she didn't even give him his birth-minute kiss. So they start kissing, then Ray pulls away and says he can't have sex if Marie hasn't kissed him.
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In the Wallpaper episode, the wall is put back up after Marie drives through it. Ray closes the curtains and starts kissing Debra. He stops to look at the wallpaper. Debra explains why it's different, then pulls him in to kiss him again. Ray pulls away and starts fixating on the paper.
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When Ray is upset about Debra having gifts from her ex boyfriends, she tries to calm him down and tells him to come here. Ray says he won't be lured by her sex and storms out.
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In Frank Paints the House, they start to have sex on Sat. morning, but Frank is right outside of their window, painting already. They Ray says he can't have sex with Frank out there.
So, if he can afford to turn down sex, then he gets enough of it. We just see him turned down because it's a comedy show, and the rejection is funny. And even with good sex, it's just never enough for Ray.
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Season 1, he accidentally wakes Debra up at midnight. He asks if she wants to play Baker and the Mind Shaft, or something. Debra replies "Ok, but I get to be the baker this time." Just woke up, Ray asks for sex, and she says ok.
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After Uncle Gus' funeral, Ray asks if she wants to do it. She smiles and says "I might."
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In Season 8, Fake Party, Ray screws up with Debra's birthday. The next day, they go out and spend time together. Then end up having sex that night.
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Debra is watching a tape of everyone in Itally. She says she wishes everyone could just hold on the the feeling of enjoying everyday. Ray jokingly says they can go upstairs and enjoy the rest of that day. Denra shrugs and says ok, and takes his hand to go upstairs. But then Frank and Marie drive through the house. -
leedeelee — 9 years ago(November 27, 2016 09:17 AM)
I agree that Ray in real life would have cheated on her. Men don't necessarily cheat because of sex or lack thereofhe would have cheated because she always made him feel like a piece of crap, putting him down all the time, embarrassing him in front of his friends and his family, calling him idiot on a daily basis, assaulting him because he put clothes on TOP of the hamper instead of IN(at least he didn't toss them on the floor like most men)whatever his faults were, he was never as mean to her as she was to him. He would have cheated, found someone to have an affair with, and then divorced her.
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leedeelee — 9 years ago(December 02, 2016 02:32 PM)
They had much better chemistry (friendship-wise) as brother and sister-in-law. Whenever Debra was annoyed with Ray, well in other words
always
, Robert was right there to support her and agree. Now that is one awesome bro-in-law! -
leedeelee — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 06:56 AM)
HmmmI just don't see it, even in fantasy. In the episode where they went dancing, I didn't see or feel any type of chemistry that would suggest if she weren't with Ray, that she might be with Robert. She's too controlling, and too much like Joanne. A "ball-stealer", totally not right for him emotionally or romantically
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rubydragonfly88 — 9 years ago(December 15, 2016 06:52 PM)
I couldn't see them having an affair, but I think their relationship is similar to other shows where there were significant in-laws, like Dan and Jakie's relationship on Roseanne, Bill and Linda on Still Standing, etc. One of the major spouses tends to get either get along really well with the brother/sister in-law or they can't stand each other.
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BiffGG — 9 years ago(January 07, 2017 09:19 AM)
Bad idea and with the families living that close it would have destroyed everyone in both houses. Robert would be desirable for many women in that he is tall and fairly good looking so it is not like his choices were extremely limited. I don't like infidelity but if it had to be done it should be with somebody outside the Barone family.
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leedeelee — 9 years ago(January 13, 2017 03:15 PM)
Their relationship is much more of a collusion than an attraction, because they both identify with Marie liking someone better than them. Besides, sitcom characters typically don't have affairs, that's why we watch them!