women in the military - EQUAL work for equal pay
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — G.I. Jane
brclpp — 11 years ago(October 16, 2014 04:57 PM)
as an infantry vet, i'll admit that this is near and dear to my heart. one of the most important mantras of feminism is "equal work for equal pay." this is really important, so again "EQUAL WORK for equal pay." in the military, women are allowed to perform 40% lower than a man, and yet receive equal pay.
examples. in the army (which is what i was in, so that's the branch i'll be using), the PT score consists of two minute push ups, two minute situps, and a two mile run.
a 100% score for a female (ages 17-21)
42 push ups - 100 points
78 sit ups - 100 points
15:36 run - 100 points
if a male performed at that level (same age group) he would receive
42 push ups - 60 - bare minimum to pass (41 push ups is FAILING)
78 sit ups - 100 points (same score)
15:36 run - 64 points (20 seconds longer and it would be failing)
now i know, women don't have the muscle mass and whatnot, but that isn't the argument. it's not "equal work for equal pay as long as muscle mass isn't an issue." and strength and endurance does matter in most MOS's, not just infantry. can a civilian woman be a mechanic, sure no question. changing a 25 pound tire on a honda, no problem. but in the military, it's a 100+ pound tire. which means you can either have one woman and one man change the tire, or just one man, again, hardly equal work for equal pay.
even cooks have to carry a lot of weight. the pots are a minimum of 5 gallons. water weighs 8 pounds a gallon for a 40-45 pound pot of boiling water that occasionally needs to be moved - without burning yourself, and women aren't even asked to do the job.
also note that the argument that women should be allowed into the infantry because SOME women can meet the same physical requirements suggests that should be the standard then. the PT chart is the PT chart regardless of MOS (the infantry just has extra physical requirements that don't get recorded - like being able to a 12 mile roadmarch in full gear, with weapons, and in under 3 hours and being able to carry EVERY man in your unit - the smallest guy still had to be able to fireman carry the largest)
to sum up. we can debate the role of women in the military all day long, but the notion of "EQUAL work for equal pay" is clearly a topic feminists don't want to discuss when the military is involved. -
tplast — 11 years ago(December 17, 2014 06:08 PM)
The phrase "equal pay for equal work" is NOT what the so-called, alleged, purported "feminist" actually means. In practice the reality is "equal pay for holding the same title". Further, so-called, alleged, purported "feminists" use the threat of "feminist" inspired law to make whatever organization (civil, military) put females in x, y and z positions/jobs. Once there the females largely get away with not doing as much work as the typical male does. So, in the end, the females hold the same title, but do not perform the same amount/quality of work. But, since they are in the same job title/rank/etc they will demand under threat of rigged discrimination laws more pay than they are worth.
And about "feminists": alleged/purported/supposed "feminists" are not about being feminine. That's just code phrase to cover up their true/genuine nature. All of the social, coalition groups of the political LEFT use code phrase/names to mischaracterize themselves because most true/pro Americans would not like what they (LEFT) are about. "Liberal", "progressive", "abortion", "women's reproductive rights", "civil rights" are all really code phrase.
These alleged/purported/supposed "feminists" are an unholy union of females who cannot be a male
(born with wrong "equipment")
and females who cannot get a male
(don't have the looks for it)
. Honestly, does anyone remember any unbelievably/inconceivably/preposterously good looking women
(e.g. Farah Fawcett, Lynda Carter ie Wonder Woman, Jayne Kennedy, Pam Grier, Bo Derek; when they were young)
who constantly screech anger about men? You don't. The screechers always seem to look like Susan Brownmiller, Andrea Dworkin, Elenor Smeal, Cindy Sheehan et al. Think about that. Hmmmm????
One part of this unholy union
(the ones who wish they were born male)
cannot have relationships
(sex, emotional connection, offspring)
with females; most females want that with a male. The other part of the unholy union
(those who haven't the looks to get a male)
cannot have relationships
(sex, emotional connection, offspring)
with males; males want someone with some attractiveness. So, this unholy union both hate males, albeit for different reasons. However, their goal involves using the same tactic(s). -
nomusicvideos — 9 years ago(December 03, 2016 03:14 PM)
The world limits women too much. They can carry more weight than your peanut brain can imagine. Women are smarter, strong than you think for the most part. It's time for women to be tested in equal standards as men.
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brclpp — 9 years ago(December 04, 2016 09:12 AM)
It's time for women to be tested in equal standards as men.
MORON, get this through YOUR peanut brain, THAT has been my entire point from the beginning!!!
my online writing style is one of speed and apathy, NOT ignorance -
brclpp — 9 years ago(December 07, 2016 05:06 PM)
MORON MORON MORON, sigh, the entire point is to hold women to the EXACT SAME STANDARDS.
god you're an idiot with abysmal reading comprehension.
my online writing style is one of speed and apathy, NOT ignorance