I wish I knew someone like Estella when I was young
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Archived from the IMDb Discussion Forums — Great Expectations
KpuzzlerS — 17 years ago(February 05, 2009 12:11 PM)
I love the way Estella does all of the work, as far as getting Finn started with how to behave with a girl. She was basically teaching him. She was his first.
I wish I had met a girl like this, back when I was still a young. I've always had dating problems. I've always hated how the guy has to do all the work. In most cases, anyway. I was never fortunate enough to meet a girl who would help me along the way, to get things started. Things would've been soooo different for me if I had. I'm completely straight, but still shy when it comes to girls.
I know there's many other movies where the girl makes the first move. I DON'T mean porn! And I'm not even talking completely along the lines of having sex for the first time. But she could help with that later on, if she had experience herself. Just having help with the first kiss and first hug and basic things. Without being nervous. I hope I'm explaining this all right, as to exactly what I mean and how I intend it. If a girl had just helped me get going, like she did with Finn, then I may have gained some confidence with girls.
I know there are many movies out there where the girl helps the guy along. Maybe makes the first move. I know "Swingers" comes to mind, where Heather Graham helps Jon Favreau at the end. I've seen several others like this too, but I can't think of them at the moment. I've heard that Kate Winslet does the same thing in the movie The Reader, but I haven't seen it yet. Is this true?
So I'd like to start a list of movies like these. If anyone can add to this list, it would really be appreciated. I'll start it off with
1)great expectations
2)swingers
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pninson — 17 years ago(March 15, 2009 04:26 PM)
I can't think of others off the top of my head, but it seems to me that this is something that happens a lot more in movies than in real life. The social structure that dictates a male makes the first move goes back several centuries. Also, remember that when you're young, girls are often just as nervous as the boys.
In Dickens' original story, Estella did nothing but break Pip's heart, torment and tease him and make him miserable. Dickens originally ended GE with Estella marrying unhappily and Pip encountering her in the street, but public outcry was so great he succumbed to the pressure and made a new ending in which Pip and Estella get together.
I did know someone very like Dickens's Estella, and she drove me crazy. Still, she did teach me a thing or two (like, for example, how to behave in a restaurant). She insulted me and made fun of me and teased me and broke my heart repeatedly, but somehow kept me coming back for more. It took me a while to get over it.
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neamtzu_rau — 16 years ago(May 09, 2009 11:41 PM)
Yeah, meeting someone like Estella isn't such a good thing to make you going with the girls.
I do make the first move, but in my case, I'm still very much alone, for I seem to get it with all the wrong types.
And it's sad to some degree.
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sabin1289 — 10 years ago(February 17, 2016 12:59 AM)
Girls make the first move much more often in movies than real life because movies are supposed to tell a story that is a bit "special". I hope you can understand what I mean.
No point for a movie to show something totally unusual. In general they want to show something a bit out of ordinary and yes you could say those guys are lucky. I wanted the same thing when I was younger but could never find any girl wanting to make the first move.