Should L.A Confidental have won Best Picture?
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Hopper10 — 13 years ago(September 14, 2012 05:52 PM)
How did return of the king lack writing? The script was drafted from one of the greatest writers of all time! And on scope and scale Mystic Rivers a beep joke compared to ROTK.
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Mcclane101 — 13 years ago(September 14, 2012 11:59 PM)
This comment is the real joke. If scope was all it took then Waterworld would be an Oscar magnet. Mystic River had phenomenal acting and a tight plot that didn't take 45 minutes to end and, unlike LOTR, didn't have dialogue that would make Michael Bay embarrassed for the writer. It's not like it was a straight adaptation. Peter Jackson curiously added and subtracted from the books. The stuff he cut was better than all of his additions.
And while we're on the subject, with all due respect to JRR Tolkein for what he did for fantasy, he was not a great writer. George RR Martin beep better writing, though it does take forever for him to do it.
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Hopper10 — 13 years ago(September 15, 2012 10:43 AM)
"he was not a great writing."
Hmm i feel like you have no place to say Tolkien wasnt a great writer* haha. But seriously Return of the King is more than a movie. Its one of the greatest fantasies of all time. Whats gonna be remembered more in 10 years?
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Mcclane101 — 13 years ago(September 16, 2012 11:02 PM)
If you want to get into editing comments, how about some punctuation? And it depends on who's doing the remembering. If it's by people with the emotional depth of a puddle, as seemingly you are, I guess it is LOTR. But, by people who actually want more than dated CGI from their movies, Mystic River stands the test of time better. You can have Peter Jackson. And for that matter, take Michael Bay, Stephen Sommers, and McG, too.
And that goes for Titanic, too. Though, I enjoy Cameron's work by and large, he has no business winning anything other than technical awards. LA Confidential is the superior work, and good points brought up about Good Will Hunting and As Good as it Gets. I forgot about them being from that year, and they both are more meaningful movies than Titanic. Wow. Here's a hint, if a movie doesn't win best actor or actress, or a writing award, then it probably isn't the best picture. -
brucedgo — 13 years ago(October 22, 2012 09:01 PM)
I loved both titanic and LAC, but Return of the King (for me) was so incredibly boring, I left the theater about 2/3 through, went to a restaurant and ate, then came back and watched the end.
I probably would have liked it better forty years ago when I was in my twenties.
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hsuggs — 13 years ago(November 30, 2012 01:15 PM)
unrelated: Appreciate the use of the phrase "Streets Ahead."
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GreenGoblinsOckVenom86 — 12 years ago(October 18, 2013 08:14 PM)
"The Oscars have given up the right to be considered best picture because there are so many best pictures that are meant to send messages. I loved the Departed, but the only reason it won was as a lifetime achievement award to Martin Scorsese. Million Dollar Baby won as a way to make it up to Clint Eastwood for passing over Mystic River, and that is from the mouths of several voters."
That is about the dumbest thing I've ever read and I'll tell you why. Clint Eastwood won best picture and Best director for Unforgiven. So to me it doesn't matter that he didn't win for Mystic River and he shouldn't have won for Million Dollar Baby. But that's just my opinion. I mean how many Oscars does a person need!?
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Michaelnlori — 13 years ago(April 19, 2012 04:55 AM)
The IMDB top 250 means nothing as far as TITANIC is concerned. There are many great films that are not on the list and many films on that list that shouldn't be there. I see TITANIC is back in the theatres and still drawing an audience and LA CONFIDENTAL is in the bargin racks at Best Buy. I'm just saying it was an epic event film that deserved to rewarded. And I don't sppreciate being called an I****.
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kth-lafountaine — 12 years ago(March 13, 2014 05:40 PM)
That example has no bearing on a film's quality. Michael Bay's Armageddon was an epic event as well - it made over $200 million and is constantly played on TV and viewed online. That does not mean it's better than Alfred Hitchcock's Psycho which I constantly see on sale for $5 or less on the bargain shelves.
I would have awarded Cameron for best director for that year because he did deserve some recognition - he changed the way modern CGI is used in film (for better or worse) - but when you stack up the writing, directing, production design, and acting of LAC against Titanic, there is no doubt in my mind that Titanic's one note romance story is nothing compared to the multi-layered, nuanced narrative that LAC provides. -
PatFilm — 14 years ago(January 09, 2012 03:47 AM)
LA CONFIDENTIAL should have won but Titanic is not undeserving
RETURN OF THE KING deserving winner in my honest opinion, 11 oscars is stretching it but it is not a travesty
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Rob4001 — 14 years ago(January 14, 2012 09:26 AM)
LAC is a much better film, the only thing i dislike about it is that it's a little cheesy in places.
Titanic has some great visuals, and i did enjoy the "disaster-documentary" aspect of the film. The love affair is just unconvincing and contrived though IMO, and as that dominates the film, it kinda takes it down a peg or two. -
formerlyScott93j — 14 years ago(January 14, 2012 08:05 PM)
"L.A. Confidential" may have lost the Oscar and Golden Globe Best Picture awards to "Titanic," but it is one of the few movies in history to be named best picture by the "big four" film critics' groups in the U.S. Also, "L.A. Confidential" received a Palme d'Or nomination at the Cannes film festival, which may be the most prestigious and elite film festival in the world. Needless to say, "Titanic" didn't.
Historically, "L.A. Confidential" is a very important modern movie for many reasons, whereas "Titanic" is important probably only because of its record-breaking box office gross and ground-breaking special effects. This is why a couple film classes I took as an undergrad watched, studied, and wrote about "L.A. Confidential," while "Titanic" was relegated to the status of a footnote. -
Robbmonster — 14 years ago(January 15, 2012 07:55 AM)
The following is a quote lifted from a review on blu-ray.com that summarises my own thoughts about L.A. Confidential better than I ever could.
While teenage girls began to weep when Titanic's Jack Dawson slid beneath the icy waves, I began to weep when it was declared Best Picture at the 70th Academy Awards, handily leaving four more satisfying films As Good As It Gets, The Full Monty, Good Will Hunting and, of course, director Curtis Hanson's pulpy tale of cops, corruption, and celebrity, L.A. Confidential gasping for air in its wake. Now I don't claim to understand what goes through an Academy voter's head when making their final selection, and I don't like to definitively declare one Oscar-nominated film's value over another, but, in this case, I have to cry foul. Everything about Hanson's golden era Hollywood epic, from its searing screenplay to its pitch-perfect performances to its sweltering cinematography, makes Titanic look superficial and inadequate. As a sprawling ensemble piece, it's a masterwork; as a tri-pronged character study, it's a stunning achievement; as a period film, it's a mesmerizing glimpse into the dark depths of a seemingly idyllic decade. Make no mistake, L.A. Confidential is one of the finest films of all time.
Again, this is NOT my review (and is copied here without permission), but it sums up my feelings better than I can.
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santinoxxx — 14 years ago(February 18, 2012 11:45 PM)
Agree wholeheartedly.In fact the 90's had some of the worst robberies in Oscar history,i.e DANCES WITH WOLVES over GOODFELLAS, FORREST GUMP over PULP FICTION, TITANIC over L.A CONFIDENTIAL, BRAVEHEART over ALL THE OTHER NOMINEES,THE ENGLISH PATIENT over FARGO,SHAKESPEARE IN LOVE over SAVING PRIVATE RYAN!!!!!!!!
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JJdaPK — 14 years ago(March 10, 2012 09:38 PM)
Dances with Wolves, Forrest Gump, Titanic, and Braveheart were all good movies. Yesthey beat superior films (from a quality standpoint at least), but most of the 90s films are better than the 80s and the 2000s.