wtf! Lolita is sooo slu++y.
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Thought_Criminal_J62377 — 11 years ago(December 20, 2014 11:46 PM)
Wow watchgirl92, it's amazing how you gloss over her actions. How do you arrive at the conclusion that she wasn't aware of the power of her sexuality? She was depicted as a master manipulator and is described as much more mature than her age. I guess I should say, it figures a female would try to shift 100% of the blame away from her and onto him. Me, unlike you, acknowledges that he's a pedophile with a sickness and was very guilty, but I don't believe the story would have taken the path it took if she wasn't literally a "lolita" because I don't think he was a rapist.
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DwarvesAreVeryUpsetting — 11 years ago(January 25, 2015 09:25 AM)
She was depicted as a master manipulator
She is a manipulator, but not out of cruelty. out of helplessness. Playing little mind games with him is the only way she can maintain any measure of control in her life. -
Social_Darwinism — 15 years ago(July 05, 2010 09:10 AM)
Little girls aren't sluts; it's adults who transfer that image onto them. Lolita sat the way she did because she was a child who was oblivious to the adult connotations of it - she was a carefree tomboy.
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Little_Tyke — 10 years ago(October 31, 2015 11:55 AM)
"oblivious to the adult connotations"
Also nonsense like the other post. She well knew what she was doing just as 14-year-old schoolgirls today will hike up their skirts as soon as they've left their home on the way to school. -
apocalypse_please24 — 15 years ago(July 18, 2010 12:03 AM)
That's not the proper way of sitting. That is so disgusting. Whoever screws her, I dont care, she deserves it for acting that way.
Dude. How
old
are you? It shouldn't matter
how
someone her age acts as inappropriate as it is, it's still up to the adults to do the right thing (i.e, not touch her). This attitude you have is similar to that whole 'if a woman's a slut, it's her fault she gets raped' mentality.
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Talent_For_Love — 15 years ago(August 01, 2010 04:43 PM)
What you have to remember is that in the novel Humbert is writing this from his point of view. He's delusional and troubled as we know and he may be making Dolly out to be more sexualized than she is because of his state of mind. Nothing he says can be trusted.
Not only that but in this film she is 14 not 12 and at 14 you are well aware of sexuality, especially around adults and how they react to it.
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TheMadHattress — 15 years ago(October 16, 2010 06:06 PM)
I agree Talent_for_love that as the novel projects Humbert's perspective, he perceives Lolita as being more than what she is. She is not Deloras but LOLITA, his fantasy object, the embodiment of all of his nymphet desire. Also before life sexualises human beings, children are liberated beings who are quite free emotionally, mentally and physically. They run around naked, they flirt (yep kids flirt!), they play, they sit how they want. It's not 'sluttiness' - its just being at an age when you are completely unaware of the sexuality of your body and the consequences of that sexuality. The great thing here is the ambiguity between Delores as she was and Lolita from Humbert's opinion and also the difference between Lolly the child and Lolly as a sexual being. Clearly later on she begins to realise that her sexuality holds a power over Humbert (he gives her money and presents) - she then learns to manipulate him.
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Thought_Criminal_J62377 — 11 years ago(December 20, 2014 11:28 PM)
His fantasy object, geniuses, wouldn't put him through so much, string him along and knowingly put daggers in his heart at every turn. I totally disagree that the way she acted was his fantasy. If she had any kind of character she wouldn't have flirted and tried to make him jealous every chance she got. She led him on, and though what he did was wrong, it doesn't make her devoid of guilt. She knew exactly what she was doing and the power she wielded. She was identical to an adult woman of "low morals." She enjoyed the power she had over him and exploited it masterfully. The truth is, females like her are the stuff of men's nightmares. She is the fabled "devil spawn" that leads men down the path of destruction
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hopless_dreamer — 15 years ago(October 20, 2010 05:56 PM)
So you're saying that because a young girl or an adult female in general spreads her legs while sitting that she deserves to be taken advantage of and sexually assaulted? You're one of those people who think that women are "asking for it" because they wear a shorter skirt or a tighter top aren't you? You're pretty much justifying the abusers actions which is terrible.
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A_Skywalker — 12 years ago(October 13, 2013 11:17 AM)
Noone is justifying the abusers. Abusers are abusers and their place is in jail. But you are one of the women that thinks its perfectly fine women trying to provoke men by wearing short skirts and showing boobs and ass. No, that is not right, that parts are for the eyes of your boyfriend. Not for everyone. It is provocative and girls are doing it because they want attention. For me its bad to get attention this way. If a woman wants to be respected she can find other ways and be respected for what she is, not for her body.
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gab_bonny — 12 years ago(October 25, 2013 05:16 PM)
" But you are one of the women that thinks its perfectly fine women trying to provoke men by wearing short skirts and showing boobs and ass."
you mean one of the women who believe we are not mens property? The ones who believe we can dress however the hell we want and not be subject to abuse? right.