How did Susen figure out that Joe was death, and that Bill would die?
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paramitch — 11 years ago(July 19, 2014 09:13 AM)
I think Susan's realization came in two phases emotional
and
intellectual.
I think in the scene at the party near the end, when Joe tries to tell her who he is without words, that she knows. You can see her literally shaking with fear (Claire Forlani I thought did a great job with a pretty difficult part) and she tells him she's afraid. She looks terrified. Then she says, "You're Joe. you're Joe," as if to calm herself (that everything else doesn't matter).
Joe meanwhile is upset by her fear and quiets her and says she will always have what she had in the coffee shop.
I think in that moment she absolutely knew who and what he was but couldn't face it.
Then later as she pursues Joe and her father and meets back up with "Coffee shop Joe," you see her put all the pieces together intellectually. She would not have done so without the understanding of what Joe really was from the earlier scene.
The interesting thing to me is that she falls head over heels for this sweet perfect coffee shop guy, who in a 7 minute or so scene gives her the spark she had been missing til then, yet her love for Joe seems even deeper and richer, so that it's like she has lost something in the end when she ends up with Coffee Guy (as sweet and cool as he is).
But as others have mentioned, it's entirely possible that she will have a happy life with Coffee Guy, then be reunited with and recognize Death as her other love at the end of her life. There's a poetry to that idea.I keep thinking I'm a grownup, but I'm not. -
hw5050 — 10 years ago(May 10, 2015 02:09 PM)
Susan, when falling in love with Joe, began to understand and know the finality of life, in other words knowing death, then and only then could she understand what her father meant earlier in the chopper ride about "to make this journey and not fall deeply in love well you haven't lived a life at all. But you have to try because if you haven't tried, you haven't lived"
So only by knowing and understanding death (falling in love with Joe), was she able to comprehend what her father meant about love and living life
She found a great appreciation for life by understanding death. -
sheldonsoong — 9 years ago(April 21, 2016 09:45 PM)
Complications with Bill's body and Susan's thought process aside, what is the coffee shop guy going to tell the family who all know him as Joe Black. Hello Allison, I'm not Joe anymore and your father is also dead across that bridge. Would've been better to end it after they crossed the bridge.